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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cmaiolino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] xfs: re-enable FIBMAP on reflink; disable for swap
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 10:31:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180901083102.GC670@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180831123639.GA39825@bfoster>

[adding Carlos who was looking into this if I remember correctly]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 08:36:40AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> So basically ioctl_fibmap() either prioritizes ->fiemap() or looks for
> some special combination of (fiemap && !bmap) to translate the call..

I'd always use fiemap if present, but if there is any good reason
to prefer ->bmap if present that should be ok.  Hopefully we can just
kill of pure ->bmap implementations in the long run..

> > > Granted, grub's blocklist code doesn't seem to check for shared blocks
> > > when it writes grubenv.... yuck, though TBH I don't have the eye budget
> > > to spend on digging through grub2.  Frankly I think FIBMAP comes verrry
> > > close to "this API is unfixably stupid and shouldn't be enabled for new
> > > use cases and should go away some day".
> > 
> > .. and that policy should be: always return an error for the slightest
> > unusual file layout (shared, encrypted, inline, etc).
> 
> ... and then return some error if the associate extent is in some state
> that cannot be described by fibmap..? That sounds like a nice option to
> me. Carlos..?

Yes.

> Maybe it's too late for this, but I think even dropping ->bmap
> completely for the time being on XFS reflink=1 filesystems is preferable
> to the current behavior where we return a perfectly valid result and
> pretend that somehow represents an error to userspace.

Note that a 0 return on ->bmap has traditionally been treated as an
error, including in userspace as block 0 is usually not a valid block
for user data.   (this isn't intended as support for this interface,
just stating history)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-01 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-30 16:10 [PATCH, RFC] xfs: re-enable FIBMAP on reflink; disable for swap Eric Sandeen
2018-08-30 16:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-30 16:31   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-08-30 16:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-30 16:35       ` Eric Sandeen
2018-08-30 18:02         ` Brian Foster
2018-08-30 18:28           ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-08-30 18:51             ` Eric Sandeen
2018-08-30 19:39               ` Brian Foster
2018-08-30 19:47                 ` Eric Sandeen
2018-08-30 19:58                   ` Brian Foster
2018-08-31  0:11               ` Dave Chinner
2018-08-31  1:34                 ` Eric Sandeen
2018-08-31  3:05                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-08-31 13:08                     ` Eric Sandeen
2018-09-01  8:32                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-31  6:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-31 12:36               ` Brian Foster
2018-09-01  8:31                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-09-02 14:08                 ` Carlos Maiolino
2018-09-02 17:52                   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-09-03 10:21                     ` Carlos Maiolino

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