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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: mkfs.xfs options suitable for creating absurdly large XFS filesystems?
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 19:11:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180904091112.GT5631@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180904082600.GB16358@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 09:26:00AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 10:49:40AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 11:49:19PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > [This is silly and has no real purpose except to explore the limits.
> > > If that offends you, don't read the rest of this email.]
> > 
> > We do this quite frequently ourselves, even if it is just to remind
> > ourselves how long it takes to wait for millions of IOs to be done.
> >
> > > I am trying to create an XFS filesystem in a partition of approx
> > > 2^63 - 1 bytes to see what happens.
> > 
> > Should just work. You might find problems with the underlying
> > storage, but the XFS side of things should just work.
> 
> Great!  How do you test this normally?

The usual: it's turtles all the way down.

> I'm assuming you must use a
> virtual device and don't have actual 2^6x storage systems around?

Right. I use XFS on XFS configurations. i.e. XFS is the storage pool
on physical storage (SSDs in RAID0 in this case). The disk images
are sparse files w/ extent size hints to minimise fragmentation and
allocation overhead. And the QEMU config uses AIO/DIO so it can do
concurrent, deeply queued async read/write IO from the guest to the
host - the guest block device behaves exactly like it is hosted on
real disks.

Apart from reflink and extent size hints, I'm using the defaults for
everything.

> > > I guess this indicates a real bug in mkfs.xfs.
> > 
> > Did it fail straight away? Or after a long time?  Can you trap this
> > in gdb and post a back trace so we know where it is coming from?
> 
> Yes I think I was far too hasty declaring this a problem with mkfs.xfs
> last night.  It turns out that NBD on the wire can only describe a few
> different errors and maps any other error to -EINVAL, which is likely

Urk. It should map them to -EIO, because then we know it's come from
the IO layer and isn't a problem related to userspace passing the
kernel invalid parameters.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-04 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-03 22:49 mkfs.xfs options suitable for creating absurdly large XFS filesystems? Richard W.M. Jones
2018-09-04  0:49 ` Dave Chinner
2018-09-04  8:23   ` Dave Chinner
2018-09-04  9:12     ` Dave Chinner
2018-09-04  8:26   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-09-04  9:11     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-09-04  9:45       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-09-04 15:36   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-04 22:23     ` Dave Chinner
2018-09-05  7:09       ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-05  7:43         ` Dave Chinner
2018-09-05  9:05   ` Richard W.M. Jones

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