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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] xfs: force writes to delalloc regions to unwritten
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 14:40:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190315034038.GK23020@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190315031302.GF4929@magnolia>

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 08:13:03PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:08:41AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 02:29:06PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > From: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> > > 
> > > When writing to a delalloc region in the data fork, commit the new
> > > allocations (of the da reservation) as unwritten so that the mappings
> > > are only marked written once writeback completes successfully.  This
> > > fixes the problem of stale data exposure if the system goes down during
> > > targeted writeback of a specific region of a file, as tested by
> > > generic/042.
> > 
> > So what does this do to buffered sequential and random write
> > performance?
> 
> Whacks it quite a bit -- 10-20% depending on how fast the storage is in
> the first place.  I barely noticed on my usb thumb drive, however. :P

I figured that would be the case, with random writes being much
worse...

> That said, shovelling that many writes through the completion workqueues
> creates a thundering herd problem on the ILOCK so maybe it wouldn't be
> so bad if we simply dumped the completions on a per-inode queue and only
> had one thread handling the completions.
> 
> (As we've been discussing on IRC.)

*nod*

> > Next, if the entire delalloc extent being allocated is beyond the
> > on-disk EOF (typical for extending sequential buffered writes), why
> > do we want those to be allocated as unwritten? i.e. isn't "allocate
> > as unwritten" only necessary for delalloc extent allocation
> > inside EOF?
> 
> I wasn't sure on this point -- for delalloc extents that start at or
> above EOF, we can continue go straight to real like we do today.  We
> still have to use the setfilesize transaction to update isize on disk,
> so it probably doesn't make that big of a difference.

We have to keep the setfilesize completion code, anyway (think
partial last block file extensions), but the setfilesize stuff is
much, much lower overhead than unwritten extent conversion so i
think we want to avoid unwritten extents where-ever they are
unnecessary.


> If the delalloc extent crosses EOF then I think it makes sense to map it
> in as unwritten, issue the write, and convert the extent to real during
> io completion, and not split it up just to avoid having unwritten
> extents past EOF.

Yup, makes sense. For a sequential write, they should always be
beyond EOF. For anything else, we use unwritten.

> IOWS, there wasn't any particular intentionality behind having the code
> not set PREALLOC if the extent is totally beyond EOF; this was just the
> bare minimum to get a discussion started. :)

*nod*

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-15  3:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-14 21:28 [PATCH 0/4] xfs: various rough fixes Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-14 21:29 ` [PATCH 1/4] xfs: only free posteof blocks on first close Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-15  3:42   ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-14 21:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] xfs: force writes to delalloc regions to unwritten Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-14 23:08   ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-15  3:13     ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-15  3:40       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-03-15 12:29         ` Brian Foster
2019-03-17 22:40           ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-18 12:40             ` Brian Foster
2019-03-18 20:35               ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-18 21:50                 ` Brian Foster
2019-03-19 18:02                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-19 20:25                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-20 12:02                       ` Brian Foster
2019-03-20 21:10                         ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-21 12:27                           ` Brian Foster
2019-03-22  1:52                             ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-22 12:46                               ` Brian Foster
2019-04-03 22:38                                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-04-04 12:50                                   ` Brian Foster
2019-04-04 15:22                                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-04-04 16:16                                       ` Brian Foster
2019-04-04 22:08                                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-04-05 11:24                                       ` Brian Foster
2019-04-05 15:12                                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-04-08  0:17                                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-04-08 12:02                                             ` Brian Foster
2019-03-14 21:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] xfs: trace transaction reservation logcount overflow Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-15 12:30   ` Brian Foster
2019-03-14 21:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] xfs: avoid reflink end cow deadlock Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-15 12:31   ` Brian Foster

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