From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: pagecache locking (was: bcachefs status update) merged)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:35:18 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190614003518.GL14363@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190613212112.GB28171@kmo-pixel>
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 05:21:12PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 03:13:40PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > There are definitely workloads that require multiple threads doing non-overlapping
> > writes to a single file in HPC. This is becoming an increasingly common problem
> > as the number of cores on a single client increase, since there is typically one
> > thread per core trying to write to a shared file. Using multiple files (one per
> > core) is possible, but that has file management issues for users when there are a
> > million cores running on the same job/file (obviously not on the same client node)
> > dumping data every hour.
>
> Mixed buffered and O_DIRECT though? That profile looks like just buffered IO to
> me.
>
> > We were just looking at this exact problem last week, and most of the threads are
> > spinning in grab_cache_page_nowait->add_to_page_cache_lru() and set_page_dirty()
> > when writing at 1.9GB/s when they could be writing at 5.8GB/s (when threads are
> > writing O_DIRECT instead of buffered). Flame graph is attached for 16-thread case,
> > but high-end systems today easily have 2-4x that many cores.
>
> Yeah I've been spending some time on buffered IO performance too - 4k page
> overhead is a killer.
>
> bcachefs has a buffered write path that looks up multiple pages at a time and
> locks them, and then copies the data to all the pages at once (I stole the idea
> from btrfs). It was a very significant performance increase.
Careful with that - locking multiple pages is also a deadlock vector
that triggers unexpectedly when something conspires to lock pages in
non-ascending order. e.g.
64081362e8ff mm/page-writeback.c: fix range_cyclic writeback vs writepages deadlock
The fs/iomap.c code avoids this problem by mapping the IO first,
then iterating pages one at a time until the mapping is consumed,
then it gets another mapping. It also avoids needing to put a page
array on stack....
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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2019-06-13 18:36 ` pagecache locking (was: bcachefs status update) merged) Kent Overstreet
2019-06-13 21:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2019-06-13 21:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2019-06-14 0:35 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-06-13 23:55 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14 2:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-14 7:30 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-15 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-14 3:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-15 4:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-17 22:47 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-17 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-18 4:21 ` Amir Goldstein
2019-06-19 10:38 ` Jan Kara
2019-06-19 22:37 ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-03 0:04 ` pagecache locking Boaz Harrosh
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2019-07-03 1:25 ` Boaz Harrosh
2019-07-05 23:31 ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-07 15:05 ` Boaz Harrosh
2019-07-07 23:55 ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-08 13:31 ` Jan Kara
2019-07-09 23:47 ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-10 8:41 ` Jan Kara
2019-06-14 17:08 ` pagecache locking (was: bcachefs status update) merged) Kent Overstreet
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