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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: pagecache locking (was: bcachefs status update) merged)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:35:18 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190614003518.GL14363@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190613212112.GB28171@kmo-pixel>

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 05:21:12PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 03:13:40PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > There are definitely workloads that require multiple threads doing non-overlapping
> > writes to a single file in HPC.  This is becoming an increasingly common problem
> > as the number of cores on a single client increase, since there is typically one
> > thread per core trying to write to a shared file.  Using multiple files (one per
> > core) is possible, but that has file management issues for users when there are a
> > million cores running on the same job/file (obviously not on the same client node)
> > dumping data every hour.
> 
> Mixed buffered and O_DIRECT though? That profile looks like just buffered IO to
> me.
> 
> > We were just looking at this exact problem last week, and most of the threads are
> > spinning in grab_cache_page_nowait->add_to_page_cache_lru() and set_page_dirty()
> > when writing at 1.9GB/s when they could be writing at 5.8GB/s (when threads are
> > writing O_DIRECT instead of buffered).  Flame graph is attached for 16-thread case,
> > but high-end systems today easily have 2-4x that many cores.
> 
> Yeah I've been spending some time on buffered IO performance too - 4k page
> overhead is a killer.
> 
> bcachefs has a buffered write path that looks up multiple pages at a time and
> locks them, and then copies the data to all the pages at once (I stole the idea
> from btrfs). It was a very significant performance increase.

Careful with that - locking multiple pages is also a deadlock vector
that triggers unexpectedly when something conspires to lock pages in
non-ascending order. e.g.

64081362e8ff mm/page-writeback.c: fix range_cyclic writeback vs writepages deadlock

The fs/iomap.c code avoids this problem by mapping the IO first,
then iterating pages one at a time until the mapping is consumed,
then it gets another mapping. It also avoids needing to put a page
array on stack....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-14  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190610191420.27007-1-kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <CAHk-=wi0iMHcO5nsYug06fV3-8s8fz7GDQWCuanefEGq6mHH1Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20190611011737.GA28701@kmo-pixel>
     [not found]     ` <20190611043336.GB14363@dread.disaster.area>
     [not found]       ` <20190612162144.GA7619@kmo-pixel>
     [not found]         ` <20190612230224.GJ14308@dread.disaster.area>
2019-06-13 18:36           ` pagecache locking (was: bcachefs status update) merged) Kent Overstreet
2019-06-13 21:13             ` Andreas Dilger
2019-06-13 21:21               ` Kent Overstreet
2019-06-14  0:35                 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-06-13 23:55             ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14  2:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-14  7:30                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-15  1:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-14  3:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-15  4:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-17 22:47                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-17 23:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-18  4:21                       ` Amir Goldstein
2019-06-19 10:38                         ` Jan Kara
2019-06-19 22:37                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-03  0:04                             ` pagecache locking Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]                               ` <DM6PR19MB250857CB8A3A1C8279D6F2F3C5FB0@DM6PR19MB2508.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
2019-07-03  1:25                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2019-07-05 23:31                               ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-07 15:05                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2019-07-07 23:55                                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-08 13:31                                 ` Jan Kara
2019-07-09 23:47                                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-10  8:41                                     ` Jan Kara
2019-06-14 17:08               ` pagecache locking (was: bcachefs status update) merged) Kent Overstreet

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