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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: xfs: garbage file data inclusion bug under memory pressure
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 10:28:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190725172830.GE1561054@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <804d24cb-5b7c-4620-5a5f-4ec039472086@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 09:44:35PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2019/07/25 20:32, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > You've had writeback errors. This is somewhat expected behaviour for
> > most filesystems when there are write errors - space has been
> > allocated, but whatever was to be written into that allocated space
> > failed for some reason so it remains in an uninitialised state....
> 
> This is bad for security perspective. The data I found are e.g. random
> source file, /var/log/secure , SQL database server's access log
> containing secret values...

Woot.  That's bad.

By any chance do the duo of patches:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/djwong/xfs-linux.git/commit/?id=bd012b434a56d9fac3cbc33062b8e2cd6e1ad0a0
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/djwong/xfs-linux.git/commit/?id=adcf7c0c87191fd3616813c8ce9790f89a9a8eba

fix this problem?  I wrote them a while ago but I never got around to
quantifying how much of a performance impact they'd have.

> > For XFS and sequential writes, the on-disk file size is not extended
> > on an IO error, hence it should not expose stale data.  However,
> > your test code is not checking for errors - that's a bug in your
> > test code - and that's why writeback errors are resulting in stale
> > data exposure.  i.e. by ignoring the fsync() error,
> > the test continues writing at the next offset and the fsync() for
> > that new data write exposes the region of stale data in the
> > file where the previous data write failed by extending the on-disk
> > EOF past it....
> > 
> > So in this case stale data exposure is a side effect of not
> > handling writeback errors appropriately in the application.
> 
> But blaming users regarding not handling writeback errors is pointless
> when thinking from security perspective. A bad guy might be trying to
> steal data from inaccessible files.

My thoughts exactly.  I'm not sure what data is supposed to be read()
from a file after a write error <cough> but I'm pretty sure that
"someone else's discarded junk" is /not/ in that set.

> 
> > 
> > But I have to ask: what is causing the IO to fail? OOM conditions
> > should not cause writeback errors - XFS will retry memory
> > allocations until they succeed, and the block layer is supposed to
> > be resilient against memory shortages, too. Hence I'd be interested
> > to know what is actually failing here...
> 
> Yeah. It is strange that this problem occurs when close-to-OOM.
> But no failure messages at all (except OOM killer messages and writeback
> error messages).

That /is/ strange.  I wonder if your scsi driver is trying to allocate
memory, failing, and the block layer squishes that into EIO?

--D

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-25 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25 10:06 xfs: garbage file data inclusion bug under memory pressure Tetsuo Handa
2019-07-25 10:53 ` Brian Foster
2019-07-25 12:30   ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-07-25 16:00     ` Brian Foster
2019-07-25 11:32 ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-25 12:44   ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-07-25 17:28     ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2019-07-25 22:07     ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-29  3:50       ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-07-29 11:23         ` Brian Foster
2019-07-29 21:56           ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-30 11:30             ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01 10:06             ` [PATCH] fs: xfs: xfs_log: Don't use KM_MAYFAIL at xfs_log_reserve() Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-01 10:56               ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01 11:00                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-01 18:50               ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-08-01 20:46                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-02 22:21                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-08-12 10:57                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-12 19:55                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-01 21:13                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-08-01 21:55                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01 20:46               ` Darrick J. Wong

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