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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, y2038@lists.linaro.org,
	Deepa Dinamani <deepa.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	Allison Collins <allison.henderson@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 4/5] xfs: extend inode format for 40-bit timestamps
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 08:32:14 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191112213214.GP4614@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191112120910.1977003-5-arnd@arndb.de>

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 01:09:09PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> XFS is the only major file system that lacks timestamps beyond year 2038,
> and is already being deployed in systems that may have to be supported
> beyond that time.
> 
> Fortunately, the inode format still has a few reserved bits that can be
> used to extend the current format. There are two bits in the nanosecond
> portion that could be used in the same way that ext4 does, extending
> the timestamps until year 2378, as well as 12 unused bytes after the
> already allocated fields.
> 
> There are four timestamps that need to be extended, so using four
> bytes out of the reserved space gets us all the way until year 36676,
> by extending the current 1902-2036 with another 255 epochs, which
> seems to be a reasonable range.
> 
> I am not sure whether this change to the inode format requires a
> new version for the inode. All existing file system images remain
> compatible, while mounting a file systems with extended timestamps
> beyond 2038 would report that timestamp incorrectly in the 1902
> through 2038 range, matching the traditional Linux behavior of
> wrapping timestamps.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>

This is basically what I proposed ~5 years or so ago and posted a
patch to implement it in an early y2038 discussion with you. I jsut
mentioned that very patch in my reposnse to Amir's timestamp
extension patchset, pointing out that this isn't the way we want
to proceed with >y2038 on-disk support.

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20191112161242.GA19334@infradead.org/T/#maf6b2719ed561cc2865cc5e7eb82df206b971261

I'd suggest taking the discussion there....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-12 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-12 12:09 [RFC 0/5] xfs: y2038 conversion Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-12 12:09 ` [RFC 1/5] xfs: [variant A] avoid time_t in user api Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-12 14:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-13  5:06     ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-11-13 13:42       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-13 16:34         ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-11-13 17:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-12 12:09 ` [RFC 2/5] xfs: [variant B] add time64 version of xfs_bstat Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-12 12:09 ` [RFC 3/5] xfs: [variant C] avoid i386-misaligned xfs_bstat Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-12 12:09 ` [RFC 4/5] xfs: extend inode format for 40-bit timestamps Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-12 14:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-12 15:02     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-11-12 15:29       ` [Y2038] " Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-12 21:32   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-11-12 12:09 ` [RFC 5/5] xfs: use 40-bit quota time limits Arnd Bergmann

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