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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: XFS reflink vs ThinLVM
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 08:39:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200115163948.GF8257@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d8e8614-9ae1-30ee-f2b4-1e45b90b27f8@assyoma.it>

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:37:52PM +0100, Gionatan Danti wrote:
> On 14/01/20 09:45, Gionatan Danti wrote:
> > On 13/01/20 19:09, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > xfs_io -c 'bmap -c -e -l -p -v <whatever>' test.img
> > 
> > Ok, good to know. Thanks.
> 
> Hi all, I have an additional question about extszinherit/extsize.
> 
> If I understand it correctly, by default it is 0: any non-EOF writes on a
> sparse file will allocate how much space it needs. If these writes are
> random and small enough (ie: 4k random writes), a subsequent sequential read
> of the same file will have much lower performance (because sequential IO are
> transformed in random accesses by the logical/physical block remapping).
> 
> Setting a 128K extszinherit (for the entire filesystem) or extsize (for a
> file/dir) will markedly improve the situation, as much bigger contiguous LBA
> regions can be read for each IO (note: I know SSD and NVME disks are much
> less impacted by fragmentation, but I am mainly speaking about HDD here).
> 
> So, my question: there is anything wrong and/or I should be aware when using
> a 128K extsize, so setting it the same as cowextsize? The only possible
> drawback I can think is a coarse granularity when allocating from the sparse
> file (ie: a 4k write will allocate the full 128k extent).
> 
> Am I missing something?

extszinherit > 0 disables delayed allocation, which means that (in your
case above) if you wrote 1G to a file (using the pagecache) you'd get
8192x 128K calls to the allocator instead of making a single 1G
allocation during writeback.  If you have a lot of memory (or a high vmm
dirty ratio) then you want delalloc over extsize.  Most of the time you
want delalloc, frankly.

--D

> Thanks.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-15 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-13 10:22 XFS reflink vs ThinLVM Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 11:10 ` Carlos Maiolino
2020-01-13 11:25   ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 11:43     ` Carlos Maiolino
2020-01-13 12:21       ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 15:34         ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 16:53           ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-13 17:00             ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 18:09               ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-14  8:45                 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-15 11:37                   ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-15 16:39                     ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2020-01-15 17:45                       ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-17 21:58                         ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-17 23:42                           ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-18 11:08                             ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-18 23:06                               ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-19  8:45                                 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 16:14 ` Chris Murphy
2020-01-13 16:25   ` Gionatan Danti

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