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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v5 PATCH 1/9] xfs: set t_task at wait time instead of alloc time
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 08:46:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200228134653.GA2751@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200228001000.GC10776@dread.disaster.area>

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:10:00AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 03:28:53PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 08:43:13AM -0500, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > The xlog_ticket structure contains a task reference to support
> > > blocking for available log reservation. This reference is assigned
> > > at ticket allocation time, which assumes that the transaction
> > > allocator will acquire reservation in the same context. This is
> > > normally true, but will not always be the case with automatic
> > > relogging.
> > > 
> > > There is otherwise no fundamental reason log space cannot be
> > > reserved for a ticket from a context different from the allocating
> > > context. Move the task assignment to the log reservation blocking
> > > code where it is used.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  fs/xfs/xfs_log.c | 2 +-
> > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_log.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_log.c
> > > index f6006d94a581..df60942a9804 100644
> > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_log.c
> > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_log.c
> > > @@ -262,6 +262,7 @@ xlog_grant_head_wait(
> > >  	int			need_bytes) __releases(&head->lock)
> > >  					    __acquires(&head->lock)
> > >  {
> > > +	tic->t_task = current;
> > >  	list_add_tail(&tic->t_queue, &head->waiters);
> > >  
> > >  	do {
> > > @@ -3601,7 +3602,6 @@ xlog_ticket_alloc(
> > >  	unit_res = xfs_log_calc_unit_res(log->l_mp, unit_bytes);
> > >  
> > >  	atomic_set(&tic->t_ref, 1);
> > > -	tic->t_task		= current;
> > 
> > Hm.  So this leaves t_task set to NULL in the ticket constructor in
> > favor of setting it in xlog_grant_head_wait.  I guess this implies that
> > some future piece will be able to transfer a ticket to another process
> > as part of a regrant or something?
> > 

Pretty much.. it's mostly just breaking the assumption that the task
that allocates a log ticket is necessarily the one that acquires log
reservation (or regrants it). The purpose of this change is so that any
particular task could allocate (and reserve) a relog ticket and donate
it to the relog mechanism (a separate task) for use (i.e. to roll it).

> > I've been wondering lately if you could transfer a dirty permanent
> > transaction to a different task so that the front end could return to
> > userspace as soon as the first transaction (with the intent items)
> > commits, and then you could reduce the latency of front-end system
> > calls.  That's probably a huge fantasy since you'd also have to transfer
> > a whole ton of state to that worker and whatever you locked to do the
> > operation remains locked...
> 
> Yup, that's basically the idea I've raised in the past for "async
> XFS" where the front end is completely detached from the back end
> that does the internal work. i.e deferred ops are the basis for
> turning XFS into a huge async processing machine.
> 

I think we've discussed this in the past, though I'm not clear on
whether it rely on this sort of change. Either way, there's a big
difference in scope between the tweak made by this patch and the design
of a generic async XFS front-end. :)

Brian

> This isn't a new idea - tux3 was based around this "async back end"
> concept, too.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-28 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-27 13:43 [RFC v5 PATCH 0/9] xfs: automatic relogging experiment Brian Foster
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 1/9] xfs: set t_task at wait time instead of alloc time Brian Foster
2020-02-27 20:48   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-27 23:28   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-28  0:10     ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-28 13:46       ` Brian Foster [this message]
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 2/9] xfs: introduce ->tr_relog transaction Brian Foster
2020-02-27 20:49   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-27 23:31   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-28 13:52     ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 3/9] xfs: automatic relogging reservation management Brian Foster
2020-02-27 20:49   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28  0:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-28 13:55     ` Brian Foster
2020-03-02  3:07   ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-02 18:06     ` Brian Foster
2020-03-02 23:25       ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-03  4:07         ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-03 15:12           ` Brian Foster
2020-03-03 21:47             ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-03 14:13         ` Brian Foster
2020-03-03 21:26           ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-04 14:03             ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 4/9] xfs: automatic relogging item management Brian Foster
2020-02-27 21:18   ` Allison Collins
2020-03-02  5:58   ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-02 18:08     ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 5/9] xfs: automatic log item relog mechanism Brian Foster
2020-02-27 22:54   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28  0:13   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-28 14:02     ` Brian Foster
2020-03-02  7:32       ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-02  7:18   ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-02 18:52     ` Brian Foster
2020-03-03  0:06       ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-03 14:14         ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 6/9] xfs: automatically relog the quotaoff start intent Brian Foster
2020-02-27 23:19   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28 14:03     ` Brian Foster
2020-02-28 18:55       ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28  1:16   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-28 14:04     ` Brian Foster
2020-02-29  5:35       ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-29 12:15         ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 7/9] xfs: buffer relogging support prototype Brian Foster
2020-02-27 23:33   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28 14:04     ` Brian Foster
2020-03-02  7:47   ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-02 19:00     ` Brian Foster
2020-03-03  0:09       ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-03 14:14         ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 8/9] xfs: create an error tag for random relog reservation Brian Foster
2020-02-27 23:35   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-27 13:43 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 9/9] xfs: relog random buffers based on errortag Brian Foster
2020-02-27 23:48   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28 14:06     ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 15:09 ` [RFC v5 PATCH 0/9] xfs: automatic relogging experiment Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-27 15:18   ` Brian Foster
2020-02-27 15:22     ` Darrick J. Wong

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