From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BF9C55186 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF28A2077D for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=oracle.com header.i=@oracle.com header.b="sDHjFfVu" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725895AbgDVXsp (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:48:45 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:42962 "EHLO userp2130.oracle.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725846AbgDVXsp (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:48:45 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 03MNksll083158; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:48:28 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=date : from : to : cc : subject : message-id : references : mime-version : content-type : in-reply-to; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=8zNf/ETfo5yWBAwg272mbgcIGtxdyaWyP7rMle+43N4=; b=sDHjFfVuTvhRa5+TW5EwtNoTO+LH8PZxb8ESIoDd8ZMlo4HprBGmqhj51/rFYWDVQIP4 caxCkdbgbZ3yFeYnjjBa/aDo9IZMDBJW57hmhiIbrYojdNZZk1w4Y1t0Drr7Z348pwE6 VyFMt6ewMHj4Q29vOBNrHMReFqUjYy78fSZRdKzq5/LOSpHEWQ/FTwXM4B4PGfnmZK64 3oNh+SeZ534Asxd+p6nAKByB80rgmD8EZhi+eayWevTR4ypoUpFwtknA6x+4B/c4RgQ5 JXCXBhEy+jPvS5wf6AqL5raJg+SvBgTkK78aOKXDfnK04ARWr5IiD2/T25/JF4DIRxNa Yw== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 30grpgt6r8-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:48:28 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 03MNldgv024787; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:48:27 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 30gb3unpcs-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:48:27 +0000 Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 03MNmP8m020186; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:48:25 GMT Received: from localhost (/67.169.218.210) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 16:48:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 16:48:23 -0700 From: "Darrick J. Wong" To: xfs Cc: Dave Chinner , Eric Sandeen , Christoph Hellwig , Brian Foster , Allison Collins , Amir Goldstein , Dan Williams , Chandan Rajendra , "Martin K. Petersen" , Matthew Wilcox , djwong@kernel.org, Jan Kara Subject: [XFS SUMMIT] Virtual XFS Developer Meetings Message-ID: <20200422234823.GJ6742@magnolia> References: <20200422222516.GP6749@magnolia> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200422222516.GP6749@magnolia> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9599 signatures=668686 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004220181 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9599 signatures=668686 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1015 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004220181 Sender: linux-xfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 03:25:16PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I propose that we hold our own virtual XFS developer summit. Physical > proximity is way too risky for the forseeable future, so let's make do > with online discussions and conferencing. LSFMM 2020 was officially > cancelled a short time ago. > > Unlike in-person events, we cannot pin everyone into a single time zone > for an extended meeting, and we can't have a hallway BOF. On the plus > side, we can finally invite /everyone/ to the table! Let's use this > email thread to make a list of topics for future discussions. I can > think of a few topic categories to start: > > 1. Development process problems that people would like to address. > 2. Matching patch authors with patch reviewers. > 3. Old features that we ought to retire. > 4. New feature development roadmap. > 5. Anything else that people think is important. > > Once we have a list of specific topics matched with people who are > interested in that topic, I think it best to start each of those > conversations in separate threads on linux-xfs where everyone can see > them. Also, uh, please tag your subject lines with "[XFS SUMMIT]" (like I didn't do) to make it easier to track the topic discussions. --D > If the participants feel that they'd get more out of an > interactive session, we have plenty of options for doing that: > > The first option of course is the IRC channel (#xfs on freenode) from > which it is easy to paste the irc logs into linux-xfs for archiving and > further public comment. > > For actual video conferencing, we also have tools such as Jitsi, > BigBlueButton, BlueJeans, and Zoom. I'm willing to sit in on video > meetings to take notes for linux-xfs and/or post the recordings online. > As a side note for anyone wanting to take advantage of videochats -- > I'd prefer to keep this to one hourlong meeting per day. > > Please remember this is not an edict passed on from high to shake up > everything; it is merely this maintainer suggesting that we explore > other tactics for building things together. In the end, everything that > goes into making decisions still must be communicated via linux-xfs, and > patches still have to earn Reviewed-by tags. We do, however, have > flexibility in how we get there. > > Here are some topics that have been mentioned to me at least in passing > over the last few months. I'll start the first five topics since > they're the ones I was going to put on the agenda for an XFS meeting at > LSFMM until that all blew away. > > - Refactoring the Review Process (me, Eric, Dave) > > - Deferred inode inactivation and nonblocking inode reclaim (me, Amir) > > - 64bit timestamps (me, Amir) > > - Atomic extent swaps (me) > > - Online fsck (me) > > - Deprecating the v4 format (Dave) > > - Parent Pointers (Amir) > > - Range Locks (Amir) > > - DAX bashing session (Dan) > > - Widening the inode fork extent counters (Chandan) > > - Dirty buffer region bitmap tracking (Chandan) > > - Add your pet item here! :) > > Thoughts, suggestions, and flames appreciated! > > --D