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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/30] xfs: mark inode buffers in cache
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 10:57:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200603145749.GA12332@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200602212918.GF2040@dread.disaster.area>

On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 07:29:18AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 12:45:35PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 07:42:25AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > Inode buffers always have write IO callbacks, so by marking them
> > > directly we can avoid needing to attach ->b_iodone functions to
> > > them. This avoids an indirect call, and makes future modifications
> > > much simpler.
> > > 
> > > This is largely a rearrangement of the code at this point - no IO
> > > completion functionality changes at this point, just how the
> > > code is run is modified.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok, I was initially thinking this patch looked incomplete in that we
> > continue to set ->b_iodone() on inode buffers even though we'd never
> > call it. Looking ahead, I see that the next few patches continue to
> > clean that up to eventually remove ->b_iodone(), so that addresses that.
> > 
> > My only other curiosity is that while there may not be any functional
> > difference, this technically changes callback behavior in that we set
> > the new flag in some contexts that don't currently attach anything to
> > the buffer, right? E.g., xfs_trans_inode_alloc_buf() sets the flag on
> > inode chunk init, which means we can write out an inode buffer without
> > any attached/flushed inodes.
> 
> Yes, it can happen, and it happens before this patch, too, because
> the AIL can push the buffer log item directly and that does not
> flush dirty inodes to the buffer before it writes back(*).
> 

I was thinking more about cases where there are actually no inodes
attached.

> As it is, xfs_buf_inode_iodone() on a buffer with no inode attached
> if functionally identical to the existing xfs_buf_iodone() callback
> that would otherwise be done. i.e. it just runs the buffer log item
> completion callback. Hence the change here rearranges code, but it
> does not change behaviour at all.
> 

Right. That's indicative from the code, but doesn't help me understand
why the change is made. That's all I'm asking for...

> (*) this is a double-write bug that this patch set does not address.
> i.e. buffer log item flushes the buffer without flushing inodes, IO
> compeletes, then inode flush to the buffer and we do another IO to
> clean them.  This is addressed by a follow-on patchset that tracks
> dirty inodes via ordered cluster buffers, such that pushing the
> buffer always triggers xfs_iflush_cluster() on buffers tagged
> _XBF_INODES...
> 

Ok, interesting (but seems beyond the scope of this series).

> > Is the intent of that to support future
> > changes? If so, a note about that in the commit log would be helpful.
> 
> That's part of it, as you can see from the (*) above. But the commit
> log already says "..., and makes future modifications much simpler."
> Was that insufficient to indicate that it will be used later on?
> 

That's a rather vague hint. ;P I was more hoping for something like:
"While this is largely a refactor of existing functionality, broaden the
scope of the flag to beyond where inodes are explicitly attached because
<some actual reason>. This has the effect of possibly invoking the
callback in cases where it wouldn't have been previously, but this is
not a functional change because the callback is effectively a no-op when
inodes are not attached."

Brian

> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-03 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-01 21:42 [PATCH 00/30] xfs: rework inode flushing to make inode reclaim fully asynchronous Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 01/30] xfs: Don't allow logging of XFS_ISTALE inodes Dave Chinner
2020-06-02  4:30   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-02  7:06     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:32   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 02/30] xfs: remove logged flag from inode log item Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:32   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 03/30] xfs: add an inode item lock Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:34   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-04  1:54     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-04 14:03       ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 04/30] xfs: mark inode buffers in cache Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:45   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-02 19:22     ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-02 21:29     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-03 14:57       ` Brian Foster [this message]
2020-06-03 21:21         ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 05/30] xfs: mark dquot " Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:45   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-02 19:00   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 06/30] xfs: mark log recovery buffers for completion Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:45   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-02 19:24   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 07/30] xfs: call xfs_buf_iodone directly Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:47   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-02 21:38     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-03 14:58       ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 08/30] xfs: clean up whacky buffer log item list reinit Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 16:47   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 09/30] xfs: make inode IO completion buffer centric Dave Chinner
2020-06-03 14:58   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 10/30] xfs: use direct calls for dquot IO completion Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 19:25   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-03 14:58   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 11/30] xfs: clean up the buffer iodone callback functions Dave Chinner
2020-06-03 14:58   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 12/30] xfs: get rid of log item callbacks Dave Chinner
2020-06-03 14:58   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 13/30] xfs: handle buffer log item IO errors directly Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 20:39   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-02 22:17     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-03 15:02   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-03 21:34     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 14/30] xfs: unwind log item error flagging Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 20:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-03 15:02   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 15/30] xfs: move xfs_clear_li_failed out of xfs_ail_delete_one() Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 20:47   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-03 15:02   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 16/30] xfs: pin inode backing buffer to the inode log item Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 22:30   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-02 22:53     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-03 18:58   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-03 22:15     ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-04 14:03       ` Brian Foster
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 17/30] xfs: make inode reclaim almost non-blocking Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 18/30] xfs: remove IO submission from xfs_reclaim_inode() Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 22:36   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 19/30] xfs: allow multiple reclaimers per AG Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 20/30] xfs: don't block inode reclaim on the ILOCK Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 21/30] xfs: remove SYNC_TRYLOCK from inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 22/30] xfs: remove SYNC_WAIT from xfs_reclaim_inodes() Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 22:43   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 23/30] xfs: clean up inode reclaim comments Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 22:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 24/30] xfs: rework stale inodes in xfs_ifree_cluster Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 23:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 25/30] xfs: attach inodes to the cluster buffer when dirtied Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 23:03   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 26/30] xfs: xfs_iflush() is no longer necessary Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 27/30] xfs: rename xfs_iflush_int() Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 28/30] xfs: rework xfs_iflush_cluster() dirty inode iteration Dave Chinner
2020-06-02 23:23   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 29/30] xfs: factor xfs_iflush_done Dave Chinner
2020-06-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 30/30] xfs: remove xfs_inobp_check() Dave Chinner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-06-04  7:45 [PATCH 00/30] xfs: rework inode flushing to make inode reclaim fully asynchronous Dave Chinner
2020-06-04  7:45 ` [PATCH 04/30] xfs: mark inode buffers in cache Dave Chinner
2020-06-04 14:04   ` Brian Foster
2020-06-22  8:15 [PATCH 00/30] xfs: rework inode flushing to make inode reclaim fully asynchronous Dave Chinner
2020-06-22  8:15 ` [PATCH 04/30] xfs: mark inode buffers in cache Dave Chinner
2020-06-23  2:32   ` Darrick J. Wong

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