From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
Cc: xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] xfs: deprecate the V4 format
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:02:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200911160222.GF7964@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200911113158.GA1194939@bfoster>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 07:31:58AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 03:48:42PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > From: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> >
> > The V4 filesystem format contains known weaknesses in the on-disk format
> > that make metadata verification diffiult. In addition, the format will
> > does not support dates past 2038 and will not be upgraded to do so.
> > Therefore, we should start the process of retiring the old format to
> > close off attack surfaces and to encourage users to migrate onto V5.
> >
> > Therefore, make XFS V4 support a configurable option. For the first
> > period it will be default Y in case some distributors want to withdraw
> > support early; for the second period it will be default N so that anyone
> > who wishes to continue support can do so; and after that, support will
> > be removed from the kernel.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> > ---
> > v2: define what is a V4 filesystem, update the administrator guide
> > ---
>
> Seems reasonable to me...
>
> > Documentation/admin-guide/xfs.rst | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > fs/xfs/Kconfig | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> > fs/xfs/xfs_mount.c | 11 +++++++++++
> > 3 files changed, 54 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/xfs.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/xfs.rst
> > index f461d6c33534..68d69733a1df 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/xfs.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/xfs.rst
> > @@ -210,6 +210,25 @@ When mounting an XFS filesystem, the following options are accepted.
> > inconsistent namespace presentation during or after a
> > failover event.
> >
> > +Deprecation of V4 Format
> > +========================
> > +
> > +The V4 filesystem format lacks certain features that are supported by
> > +the V5 format, such as metadata checksumming, strengthened metadata
> > +verification, and the ability to store timestamps past the year 2038.
> > +Because of this, the V4 format is deprecated. All users should upgrade
> > +by backing up their files, reformatting, and restoring from the backup.
> > +
> > +Administrators and users can detect a V4 filesystem by running xfs_info
> > +against a filesystem mountpoint and checking for a string beginning with
> > +"crc=". If the string "crc=0" is found, or no "crc=" string is found,
> > +the filesystem is a V4 filesystem.
> > +
> > +The deprecation will take place in two parts. Support for mounting V4
> > +filesystems can now be disabled at kernel build time via Kconfig option.
> > +The option will default to yes until September 2025, at which time it
> > +will be changed to default to no. In September 2030, support will be
> > +removed from the codebase entirely.
> >
> > Deprecated Mount Options
> > ========================
> > @@ -217,6 +236,7 @@ Deprecated Mount Options
> > =========================== ================
> > Name Removal Schedule
> > =========================== ================
> > +Mounting with V4 filesystem September 2030
> > =========================== ================
> >
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/xfs/Kconfig b/fs/xfs/Kconfig
> > index e685299eb3d2..5970d0f77db9 100644
> > --- a/fs/xfs/Kconfig
> > +++ b/fs/xfs/Kconfig
> > @@ -22,6 +22,29 @@ config XFS_FS
> > system of your root partition is compiled as a module, you'll need
> > to use an initial ramdisk (initrd) to boot.
> >
> > +config XFS_SUPPORT_V4
> > + bool "Support deprecated V4 (crc=0) format"
> > + default y
> > + help
> > + The V4 filesystem format lacks certain features that are supported
> > + by the V5 format, such as metadata checksumming, strengthened
> > + metadata verification, and the ability to store timestamps past the
> > + year 2038. Because of this, the V4 format is deprecated. All users
> > + should upgrade by backing up their files, reformatting, and restoring
> > + from the backup.
> > +
> > + Administrators and users can detect a V4 filesystem by running
> > + xfs_info against a filesystem mountpoint and checking for a string
> > + beginning with "crc=". If the string "crc=0" is found, or no "crc="
> > + string is found, the filesystem is a V4 filesystem.
> > +
> > + This option will become default N in September 2025. Support for the
> > + V4 format will be removed entirely in September 2030. Distributors
> > + can say N here to withdraw support earlier.
> > +
> > + To continue supporting the old V4 format (crc=0), say Y.
> > + To close off an attack surface, say N.
> > +
> > config XFS_QUOTA
> > bool "XFS Quota support"
> > depends on XFS_FS
> > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_mount.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_mount.c
> > index ed69c4bfda71..3678dfeecd64 100644
> > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_mount.c
> > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_mount.c
> > @@ -315,6 +315,17 @@ xfs_readsb(
> > goto release_buf;
> > }
> >
> > +#ifndef CONFIG_XFS_SUPPORT_V4
> > + /* V4 support is undergoing deprecation. */
> > + if (!xfs_sb_version_hascrc(sbp)) {
> > + if (loud)
> > + xfs_warn(mp,
> > + "Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) not supported by kernel.");
> > + error = -EINVAL;
> > + goto release_buf;
> > + }
> > +#endif
> > +
>
> Should we not have a (oneshot?) warning for systems that choose to
> continue to support and use v4 filesystems? ISTM that's the best way to
> ensure there's feedback on this change earlier rather than later, or
> otherwise encourage such users to reformat with v5 at the next available
> opportunity...
hm, yes.
> BTW, any reason this is in xfs_readsb() vs. xfs_fc_fill_super() where we
> have various other version/feature checks and warnings?
no particular reason. i like the idea of moving this chunk over there.
--d
> Brian
>
> > /*
> > * We must be able to do sector-sized and sector-aligned IO.
> > */
> >
>
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2020-09-10 22:48 [PATCH v2] xfs: deprecate the V4 format Darrick J. Wong
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