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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Chris Dunlop <chris@onthe.net.au>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Extreme fragmentation ho!
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 08:03:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201222130359.GA2805699@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201221215453.GA1886598@onthe.net.au>

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 08:54:53AM +1100, Chris Dunlop wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a 2T file fragmented into 841891 randomly placed extents. It takes
> 4-6 minutes (depending on what else the filesystem is doing) to delete the
> file. This is causing a timeout in the application doing the removal, and
> hilarity ensues.
> 
> The fragmentation is the result of reflinking bits and bobs from other files
> into the subject file, so it's probably unavoidable.
> 
> The file is sitting on XFS on LV on a raid6 comprising 6 x 5400 RPM HDD:
> 
> # xfs_info /home
> meta-data=/dev/mapper/vg00-home  isize=512    agcount=32, agsize=244184192 blks
>          =                       sectsz=4096  attr=2, projid32bit=1
>          =                       crc=1        finobt=1, sparse=1, rmapbt=1
>          =                       reflink=1
> data     =                       bsize=4096   blocks=7813893120, imaxpct=5
>          =                       sunit=128    swidth=512 blks
> naming   =version 2              bsize=4096   ascii-ci=0, ftype=1
> log      =internal log           bsize=4096   blocks=521728, version=2
>          =                       sectsz=4096  sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1
> realtime =none                   extsz=4096   blocks=0, rtextents=0
> 
> I'm guessing the time taken to remove is not unreasonable given the speed of
> the underlying storage and the amount of metadata involved. Does my guess
> seem correct?
> 
> I'd like to do some experimentation with a facsimile of this file, e.g.  try
> the remove on different storage subsystems, and/or with a external fast
> journal etc., to see how they compare.
> 
> What is the easiest way to recreate a similarly (or even better,
> identically) fragmented file?
> 
> One way would be to use xfs_metadump / xfs_mdrestore to create an entire
> copy of the original filesystem, but I'd really prefer not taking the
> original fs offline for the time required. I also don't have the space to
> restore the whole fs but perhaps using lvmthin can address the restore
> issue, at the cost of a slight(?) performance impact due to the extra layer.
> 

Note that xfs_metadump doesn't include file data, only metadata, so it
might actually be the most time and space efficient way to replicate the
large file. You would need a similarly sized block device to restore to
and would not be able to change filesystem geometry and whatnot. The
former can be easily worked around by restoring the image to a file on a
smaller fs though, which may or may not interfere with whatever
performance testing you're doing.

> Is it possible to using the output of xfs_bmap on the original file to drive
> ...something, maybe xfs_io, to recreate the fragmentation? A naive test
> using xfs_io pwrite didn't produce any fragmentation - unsurprisingly, given
> the effort XFS puts into reducing fragmentation.
> 

fstests has a helper program (xfstests-dev/src/punch-alternating) that
helps create fragmented files. IIRC, you create a fully allocated file
in advance and it will punch out alternating ranges based on the
offset/size parameters. You might have to wait a bit for it to complete,
but it's pretty easy to use (and you can always create a metadump image
from the result for quicker restoration).

Yet another option might be to try a write workload that attempts to
defeat the allocator heuristics. For example, do direct I/O or falloc
requests in reverse order and in small sizes across a file. xfs_io has a
couple flags you can pass to pwrite (i.e., -B, -R) to make that easier,
but that's more manual and you may have to play around with it to get
the behavior you want.

Brian

> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-22 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-21 21:54 Extreme fragmentation ho! Chris Dunlop
2020-12-22 13:03 ` Brian Foster [this message]
2020-12-28 22:06 ` Dave Chinner
2020-12-30  6:28   ` Chris Dunlop
2020-12-30 22:03     ` Dave Chinner

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