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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	it+linux-xfs@molgen.mpg.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: Wake CIL push waiters more reliably
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 06:18:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210216111820.GA534175@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8416da5f-e8e5-8ec6-df3e-5ca89339359c@molgen.mpg.de>

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 02:36:38PM +0100, Donald Buczek wrote:
> On 13.01.21 22:53, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > [...]
> > I agree that a throttling fix is needed, but I'm trying to
> > understand the scope and breadth of the problem first instead of
> > jumping the gun and making the wrong fix for the wrong reasons that
> > just papers over the underlying problems that the throttling bug has
> > made us aware of...
> 
> Are you still working on this?
> 
> If it takes more time to understand the potential underlying problem, the fix for the problem at hand should be applied.
> 
> This is a real world problem, accidentally found in the wild. It appears very rarely, but it freezes a filesystem or the whole system. It exists in 5.7 , 5.8 , 5.9 , 5.10 and 5.11 and is caused by c7f87f3984cf ("xfs: fix use-after-free on CIL context on shutdown") which silently added a condition to the wakeup. The condition is based on a wrong assumption.
> 
> Why is this "papering over"? If a reminder was needed, there were better ways than randomly hanging the system.
> 
> Why is
> 
>     if (ctx->space_used >= XLOG_CIL_BLOCKING_SPACE_LIMIT(log))
>         wake_up_all(&cil->xc_push_wait);
> 
> , which doesn't work reliably, preferable to
> 
>     if (waitqueue_active(&cil->xc_push_wait))
>         wake_up_all(&cil->xc_push_wait);
> 
> which does?
> 

JFYI, Dave followed up with a patch a couple weeks or so ago:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20210128044154.806715-5-david@fromorbit.com/

Brian

> Best
>   Donald
> 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Dave
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-16 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-17 17:44 v5.10.1 xfs deadlock Donald Buczek
2020-12-17 19:43 ` Brian Foster
2020-12-17 21:30   ` Donald Buczek
2020-12-18 15:35     ` Brian Foster
2020-12-18 18:35       ` Donald Buczek
2020-12-27 17:34         ` Donald Buczek
2020-12-28 23:13           ` Donald Buczek
2020-12-29 23:56             ` [PATCH] xfs: Wake CIL push waiters more reliably Donald Buczek
2020-12-30 22:16               ` Dave Chinner
2020-12-31 11:48                 ` Donald Buczek
2020-12-31 21:59                   ` Dave Chinner
2021-01-02 19:12                     ` Donald Buczek
2021-01-02 22:44                       ` Dave Chinner
2021-01-03 16:03                         ` Donald Buczek
2021-01-07 22:19                           ` Dave Chinner
2021-01-09 14:39                             ` Donald Buczek
2021-01-04 16:23                 ` Brian Foster
2021-01-07 21:54                   ` Dave Chinner
2021-01-08 16:56                     ` Brian Foster
2021-01-11 16:38                       ` Brian Foster
2021-01-13 21:53                         ` Dave Chinner
2021-02-15 13:36                           ` Donald Buczek
2021-02-16 11:18                             ` Brian Foster [this message]
2021-02-16 12:40                               ` Donald Buczek
2021-01-13 21:44                       ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]             ` <20201230024642.2171-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-12-30 16:54               ` Donald Buczek
2020-12-18 21:49 ` v5.10.1 xfs deadlock Dave Chinner
2020-12-21 12:22   ` Donald Buczek
2020-12-27 17:22     ` Donald Buczek

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