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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: check dentry is still valid in get_link()
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:05:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220119090545.b25trkg2kjigf3fi@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YeblIix0fyXyBipW@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk>

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 04:04:50PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:29:11AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 06:10:36PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 04:28:52PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > > 
> > > > IOW, ->free_inode() is RCU-delayed part of ->destroy_inode().  If both
> > > > are present, ->destroy_inode() will be called synchronously, followed
> > > > by ->free_inode() from RCU callback, so you can have both - moving just
> > > > the "finally mark for reuse" part into ->free_inode() would be OK.
> > > > Any blocking stuff (if any) can be left in ->destroy_inode()...
> > > 
> > > BTW, we *do* have a problem with ext4 fast symlinks.  Pathwalk assumes that
> > > strings it parses are not changing under it.  There are rather delicate
> > > dances in dcache lookups re possibility of ->d_name contents changing under
> > > it, but the search key is assumed to be stable.
> > > 
> > > What's more, there's a correctness issue even if we do not oops.  Currently
> > > we do not recheck ->d_seq of symlink dentry when we dismiss the symlink from
> > > the stack.  After all, we'd just finished traversing what used to be the
> > > contents of a symlink that used to be in the right place.  It might have been
> > > unlinked while we'd been traversing it, but that's not a correctness issue.
> > > 
> > > But that critically depends upon the contents not getting mangled.  If it
> > > *can* be screwed by such unlink, we risk successful lookup leading to the
> > 
> > Out of curiosity: whether or not it can get mangled depends on the
> > filesystem and how it implements fast symlinks or do fast symlinks
> > currently guarantee that contents are mangled?
> 
> Not sure if I understand your question correctly...
> 
> 	Filesystems should guarantee that the contents of string returned
> by ->get_link() (or pointed to by ->i_link) remains unchanged for as long
> as we are looking at it (until fs/namei.c:put_link() that drops it or
> fs/namei.c:drop_links() in the end of pathwalk).  Fast symlinks or not -
> doesn't matter.

Yep, got that.

> 
> 	The only cases where that does not hold (there are two of them in
> the entire kernel) happen to be fast symlinks.	Both cases are bugs.

Ok, that's what I was essentially after whether or not they were bugs in
the filesystems or it's a generic bug.

> ext4 case is actually easy to fix - the only reason it ends up mangling
> the string is the way ext4_truncate() implements its check for victim
> being a fast symlink (and thus needing no work).  It gets disrupted
> by zeroing ->i_size, which we need to do in this case (inode removal).
> That's not hard to get right.

Oh, I see, it zeroes i_size and erases i_data which obviously tramples
the fast symlink contents.

Given that ext4 makes use of i_flags for their ext4 inode containers why
couldn't this just be sm like

#define EXT4_FAST_SYMLINK	        0x<some-free-value>

	if (EXT4_I(inode)->i_flags & EXT4_FAST_SYMLINK)
		return <im-a-fast-symlink>;

? Which seems simpler and more obvious to someone reading that code than
logic based on substracting blocks or checking i_size.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-10  9:11 [PATCH] vfs: check dentry is still valid in get_link() Ian Kent
2022-01-15  6:38 ` Al Viro
2022-01-17  2:55   ` Ian Kent
2022-01-17 14:35     ` Brian Foster
2022-01-17 16:28       ` Al Viro
2022-01-17 18:10         ` Al Viro
2022-01-17 19:48           ` Al Viro
2022-01-18  1:32             ` Al Viro
2022-01-18  2:31               ` Ian Kent
2022-01-18  3:03                 ` Al Viro
2022-01-18 13:47               ` Brian Foster
2022-01-18 18:25                 ` Brian Foster
2022-01-18 19:20                   ` Al Viro
2022-01-18 20:58                     ` Brian Foster
2022-01-18  8:29           ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-18 16:04             ` Al Viro
2022-01-19  9:05               ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2022-01-17 18:42         ` Brian Foster
2022-01-18  3:00         ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-18  3:17           ` Al Viro
2022-01-18  4:12             ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-18  5:58               ` Al Viro
2022-01-18 23:25                 ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-19 14:08                   ` Brian Foster
2022-01-19 22:07                     ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-20 16:03                       ` Brian Foster
2022-01-20 16:34                         ` Brian Foster

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