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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Chandan Babu R <chandan.babu@oracle.com>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 15/19] xfs: Directory's data fork extent counter can never overflow
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 12:27:12 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220401012712.GJ1544202@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220330034333.GG27690@magnolia>

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 08:43:33PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> But then the second question is: what's the maximum height of a dabtree
> that indexes an xattr structure?  I don't think there's any maximum
> limit within XFS on the number of attrs you can set on a file, is there?

Nope. But the attr btree is a different beast to the dirv2
structure - it's a hashed index btree with the xattr records in the
leaf, it's not an index of a fixed max size external data structure.

> At least until you hit the iext_max_count check.  I think the VFS
> institutes its own limit of 64k for the llistxattr buffer, but that's
> about all I can think of.


> I suppose right now the xattr structure can't grow larger than 2^(16+21)
> blocks in size, which is 2^49 bytes, but that's a mix of attr leaves and
> dabtree blocks, unlike directories, right?

Yes. ALso remote xattr blocks, which aren't stored in the dabtree
at all, but are indexed by the attr fork BMBT address space.

So I think for XFS_DA_NODE_MAXDEPTH = 5, the xattr tree with a 4kB
block size (minimum allowed, IIRC), we can index approximately
(500^4) individual xattrs in the btree index (assuming 4 levels of
index and 1 level of leaf nodes containing xattrs).

My math calculates that to be about 62.5 billion xattrs before we
run out of index space in a 5 level tree with a 4kB block size.
Hence I suspect we'll run out of attr fork extents even on a 32 bit
extent count before we run out of xattr index space.

Also, 62.5 billion xattrs is more links than we can have to a single
inode (4billion), so we're not going to exhaust the xattr index
space just with parent pointers...

> > immediately how many blocks can be in the XFS_DIR2_LEAF_SPACE
> > segement....
> > 
> > We also know the maximum number of individual directory blocks in
> > the 32GB segment (fixed at 32GB / dir block size), so the free space
> > array is also a fixed size at (32GB / dir block size / free space
> > entries per block).
> > 
> > It's easy to just use (96GB / block size) and that will catch most
> > corruptions with no risk of a false positive detection, but we could
> > quite easily refine this to something like:
> > 
> > data	(32GB +				
> > leaf	 btree blocks(XFS_DA_NODE_MAXDEPTH) +
> > freesp	 (32GB / free space records per block))
> > frags					/ filesystem block size
> 
> I think we ought to do a more careful study of XFS_DA_NODE_MAXDEPTH,

*nod*

ISTR that Chandan had already done some of this when he
characterised the attr fork btree behaviour w.r.t. suitabililty for
large numbers of parent pointers before starting this extent count
work.

> but
> it could become more involved than we think.  In the interest of keeping
> this series moving, can we start with a new verifier check that
> (di_nextents < that formula from above) and then refine that based on
> whatever improvements we may or may not come up with for
> XFS_DA_NODE_MAXDEPTH?

Yup, that sounds like a good plan.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-01  1:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-21  5:17 [PATCH V8 00/19] xfs: Extend per-inode extent counters Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 01/19] xfs: Move extent count limits to xfs_format.h Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 02/19] xfs: Define max extent length based on on-disk format definition Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 03/19] xfs: Introduce xfs_iext_max_nextents() helper Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 04/19] xfs: Use xfs_extnum_t instead of basic data types Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 05/19] xfs: Introduce xfs_dfork_nextents() helper Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 21:31   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 06/19] xfs: Use basic types to define xfs_log_dinode's di_nextents and di_anextents Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 07/19] xfs: Promote xfs_extnum_t and xfs_aextnum_t to 64 and 32-bits respectively Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 21:33   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 08/19] xfs: Introduce XFS_SB_FEAT_INCOMPAT_NREXT64 and associated per-fs feature bit Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 21:37   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-24 21:40     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-03-25  6:01       ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 09/19] xfs: Introduce XFS_FSOP_GEOM_FLAGS_NREXT64 Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 10/19] xfs: Introduce XFS_DIFLAG2_NREXT64 and associated helpers Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 21:38   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 11/19] xfs: Use uint64_t to count maximum blocks that can be used by BMBT Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 21:42   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-25  6:01     ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 12/19] xfs: Introduce macros to represent new maximum extent counts for data/attr forks Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 13/19] xfs: Replace numbered inode recovery error messages with descriptive ones Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 21:47   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 14/19] xfs: Introduce per-inode 64-bit extent counters Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 21:53   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-25  6:02     ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 15/19] xfs: Directory's data fork extent counter can never overflow Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 22:14   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-25  6:02     ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-25  6:37       ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-29  5:22     ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-29  6:23       ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-30  3:43         ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-03-30 15:39           ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-30 15:52             ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-04-01  1:27           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2022-04-01  7:46             ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 16/19] xfs: Conditionally upgrade existing inodes to use large extent counters Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 22:28   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-25  6:02     ` Chandan Babu R
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 17/19] xfs: Decouple XFS_IBULK flags from XFS_IWALK flags Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 22:28   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 18/19] xfs: Enable bulkstat ioctl to support 64-bit per-inode extent counters Chandan Babu R
2022-03-24 22:33   ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-21  5:17 ` [PATCH V8 19/19] xfs: Add XFS_SB_FEAT_INCOMPAT_NREXT64 to the list of supported flags Chandan Babu R

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