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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] xfs: buffered write failure should not truncate the page cache
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 07:57:07 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221102205707.GY3600936@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2IbOl9hI7knhcDT@infradead.org>

On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 12:24:42AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Just a little dumb question while I'm wrapping my head around the change
> here - why do we even punch the pagecache to start with?

We don't. It's just wrong because it assumes that the write() owns
the range of the page cache and it only contains no non-zero data
because the write allocated the delalloc range and therefore the
write was into a hole and therefore, by definition, it contains no
non-zero data.

Hence if the write is short, we punched out the page cache under the
assumption that it will only remove cached zeroes from the cache. If
those zeroes are dirty for some reason (zeroing prior to the iomap
hole/unwritten detection?) we don't need to write them and have to
be removed from the page caceh before we punch out the underlying
delalloc extent.

Unfortunately, this assumption has always been compeltely invalid
because both writeback and mmap page faults access to the page cache
can race with write()...

> As long as the
> regions that we failed to write to aren't marked uptdate (at the page
> or block level for sub-block writes), who cares if they remain in the
> page cache for now?

Exactly - that's the premise this patchset is based on - we only
need to care about dirty pages across the range of the delalloc
extent, and nothing else matters as it will be properly instantiated
with new delalloc backing if it gets dirtied in future...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-02 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-01  0:34 xfs, iomap: fix data corrupton due to stale cached iomaps Dave Chinner
2022-11-01  0:34 ` [PATCH 1/7] xfs: write page faults in iomap are not buffered writes Dave Chinner
2022-11-02  7:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 16:12   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-02 21:11     ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-01  0:34 ` [PATCH 2/7] xfs: punching delalloc extents on write failure is racy Dave Chinner
2022-11-02  7:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 16:22   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-01  0:34 ` [PATCH 3/7] xfs: use byte ranges for write cleanup ranges Dave Chinner
2022-11-02  7:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 16:32   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-04  5:40     ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-07 23:53       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-01  0:34 ` [PATCH 4/7] xfs: buffered write failure should not truncate the page cache Dave Chinner
2022-11-01 11:57   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-02  7:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 20:57     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2022-11-02 16:41   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-02 21:04     ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-02 22:26       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-04  8:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-04 23:10     ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-07 23:48       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-01  0:34 ` [PATCH 5/7] iomap: write iomap validity checks Dave Chinner
2022-11-02  8:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 16:43     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-02 16:58       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-03  0:35         ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-04  8:12           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 16:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-01  0:34 ` [PATCH 6/7] xfs: use iomap_valid method to detect stale cached iomaps Dave Chinner
2022-11-01  9:15   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-02  8:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 21:39     ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-04  8:14       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-02 17:19   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-02 22:36     ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-08  0:00       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-01  0:34 ` [PATCH 7/7] xfs: drop write error injection is unfixable, remove it Dave Chinner
2022-11-01  3:39 ` xfs, iomap: fix data corrupton due to stale cached iomaps Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-01  4:21   ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-02 17:23     ` Darrick J. Wong

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