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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6 04/10] iomap: Add iomap_get_folio helper
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 07:52:41 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230111205241.GA360264@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y78PunroeYbv2qgH@casper.infradead.org>

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 07:36:26PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 07:24:27AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 01:34:16PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > Exactly.  And as I already pointed out in reply to Dave's original
> > > > patch what we really should be doing is returning an ERR_PTR from
> > > > __filemap_get_folio instead of reverse-engineering the expected
> > > > error code.
> > > 
> > > Ouch, we have a nasty problem.
> > > 
> > > If somebody passes FGP_ENTRY, we can return a shadow entry.  And the
> > > encodings for shadow entries overlap with the encodings for ERR_PTR,
> > > meaning that some shadow entries will look like errors.  The way I
> > > solved this in the XArray code is by shifting the error values by
> > > two bits and encoding errors as XA_ERROR(-ENOMEM) (for example).
> > > 
> > > I don't _object_ to introducing XA_ERROR() / xa_err() into the VFS,
> > > but so far we haven't, and I'd like to make that decision intentionally.
> > 
> > So what would be an alternative way to tell the callers why no folio
> > was found instead of trying to reverse engineer that?  Return an errno
> > and the folio by reference?  The would work, but the calling conventions
> > would be awful.
> 
> Agreed.  How about an xa_filemap_get_folio()?
> 
> (there are a number of things to fix here; haven't decided if XA_ERROR
> should return void *, or whether i should use a separate 'entry' and
> 'folio' until I know the entry is actually a folio ...)

That's awful. Exposing internal implementation details in the API
that is supposed to abstract away the internal implementation
details from users doesn't seem like a great idea to me.

Exactly what are we trying to fix here?  Do we really need to punch
a hole through the abstraction layers like this just to remove half
a dozen lines of -slow path- context specific error handling from a
single caller?

If there's half a dozen cases that need this sort of handling, then
maybe it's the right thing to do. But for a single calling context
that only needs to add a null return check in one specific case?
There's absolutely no need to make generic infrastructure violate
layering abstractions to handle that...

-Dave.

-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-08 19:40 [RFC v6 00/10] Turn iomap_page_ops into iomap_folio_ops Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 01/10] iomap: Add __iomap_put_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 02/10] iomap/gfs2: Unlock and put folio in page_done handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 03/10] iomap: Rename page_done handler to put_folio Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 04/10] iomap: Add iomap_get_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 21:33   ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 12:46     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-10  8:46       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10  9:07         ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-10 13:34         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-10 15:24           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-11 19:36             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-11 20:52               ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2023-01-12  8:41                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-15 17:01           ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-15 17:06             ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-16  5:46               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16  7:34                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-16 13:18                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 16:02                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 05/10] iomap/gfs2: Get page in page_prepare handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-31 19:37   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-31 21:33     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 06/10] iomap: Add __iomap_get_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-10  8:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 07/10] iomap: Rename page_prepare handler to get_folio Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 08/10] iomap/xfs: Eliminate the iomap_valid handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 21:59   ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 18:45     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-09 22:54       ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-10  1:09         ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-15 17:29           ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-18  7:21             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-18  9:11               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-18 19:04               ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-18 19:57                 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-18 21:42             ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-10  8:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10  8:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 09/10] iomap: Rename page_ops to folio_ops Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 10/10] xfs: Make xfs_iomap_folio_ops static Andreas Gruenbacher

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