From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6 04/10] iomap: Add iomap_get_folio helper
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 07:52:41 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230111205241.GA360264@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y78PunroeYbv2qgH@casper.infradead.org>
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 07:36:26PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 07:24:27AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 01:34:16PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > Exactly. And as I already pointed out in reply to Dave's original
> > > > patch what we really should be doing is returning an ERR_PTR from
> > > > __filemap_get_folio instead of reverse-engineering the expected
> > > > error code.
> > >
> > > Ouch, we have a nasty problem.
> > >
> > > If somebody passes FGP_ENTRY, we can return a shadow entry. And the
> > > encodings for shadow entries overlap with the encodings for ERR_PTR,
> > > meaning that some shadow entries will look like errors. The way I
> > > solved this in the XArray code is by shifting the error values by
> > > two bits and encoding errors as XA_ERROR(-ENOMEM) (for example).
> > >
> > > I don't _object_ to introducing XA_ERROR() / xa_err() into the VFS,
> > > but so far we haven't, and I'd like to make that decision intentionally.
> >
> > So what would be an alternative way to tell the callers why no folio
> > was found instead of trying to reverse engineer that? Return an errno
> > and the folio by reference? The would work, but the calling conventions
> > would be awful.
>
> Agreed. How about an xa_filemap_get_folio()?
>
> (there are a number of things to fix here; haven't decided if XA_ERROR
> should return void *, or whether i should use a separate 'entry' and
> 'folio' until I know the entry is actually a folio ...)
That's awful. Exposing internal implementation details in the API
that is supposed to abstract away the internal implementation
details from users doesn't seem like a great idea to me.
Exactly what are we trying to fix here? Do we really need to punch
a hole through the abstraction layers like this just to remove half
a dozen lines of -slow path- context specific error handling from a
single caller?
If there's half a dozen cases that need this sort of handling, then
maybe it's the right thing to do. But for a single calling context
that only needs to add a null return check in one specific case?
There's absolutely no need to make generic infrastructure violate
layering abstractions to handle that...
-Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-11 20:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-08 19:40 [RFC v6 00/10] Turn iomap_page_ops into iomap_folio_ops Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 01/10] iomap: Add __iomap_put_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 02/10] iomap/gfs2: Unlock and put folio in page_done handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 03/10] iomap: Rename page_done handler to put_folio Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 04/10] iomap: Add iomap_get_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 21:33 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 12:46 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-10 8:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 9:07 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-10 13:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-10 15:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-11 19:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-11 20:52 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2023-01-12 8:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-15 17:01 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-15 17:06 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-16 5:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 7:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-16 13:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 16:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 05/10] iomap/gfs2: Get page in page_prepare handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-31 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-31 21:33 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 06/10] iomap: Add __iomap_get_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-10 8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 07/10] iomap: Rename page_prepare handler to get_folio Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 08/10] iomap/xfs: Eliminate the iomap_valid handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 21:59 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 18:45 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-09 22:54 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-10 1:09 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-15 17:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-18 7:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-18 9:11 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-18 19:04 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-18 19:57 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-18 21:42 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-10 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 8:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 09/10] iomap: Rename page_ops to folio_ops Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 10/10] xfs: Make xfs_iomap_folio_ops static Andreas Gruenbacher
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