From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
Ted Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] block: Add config option to not allow writing to mounted devices
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 12:11:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230822101154.7udsf4tdwtns2prj@quack3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230822053523.GA8949@sol.localdomain>
Hi Eric!
On Mon 21-08-23 22:35:23, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 02:56:49PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > Writing to mounted devices is dangerous and can lead to filesystem
> > corruption as well as crashes. Furthermore syzbot comes with more and
> > more involved examples how to corrupt block device under a mounted
> > filesystem leading to kernel crashes and reports we can do nothing
> > about. Add tracking of writers to each block device and a kernel cmdline
> > argument which controls whether writes to block devices open with
> > BLK_OPEN_BLOCK_WRITES flag are allowed. We will make filesystems use
> > this flag for used devices.
> >
> > Syzbot can use this cmdline argument option to avoid uninteresting
> > crashes. Also users whose userspace setup does not need writing to
> > mounted block devices can set this option for hardening.
> >
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/60788e5d-5c7c-1142-e554-c21d709acfd9@linaro.org
> > Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
>
> Can you make it clear that the important thing this patch prevents is
> writes to the block device's buffer cache, not writes to the underlying
> storage? It's super important not to confuse the two cases.
Right, I've already updated the description of the help text in the kconfig
to explicitely explain that this does not prevent underlying device content
from being modified, it just prevents writes the the block device itself.
But I guess I can also explain this (with a bit more technical details) in
the changelog. Good idea.
> Related to this topic, I wonder if there is any value in providing an option
> that would allow O_DIRECT writes but forbid buffered writes? Would that be
> useful for any of the known use cases for writing to mounted block devices?
I'm not sure how useful that would be but it would be certainly rather
difficult to implement. The problem is we can currently fallback from
direct to buffered IO as we see fit, also we need to invalidate page cache
while doing direct IO which can fail etc. So it will be a rather nasty can
of worms to open...
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-22 10:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-04 12:56 [PATCH RFC 0/6 v2] block: Add config option to not allow writing to mounted devices Jan Kara
2023-07-04 12:56 ` [PATCH 1/6] " Jan Kara
2023-07-04 15:56 ` Colin Walters
2023-07-04 16:52 ` Eric Biggers
2023-08-14 16:41 ` Jan Kara
2023-08-14 16:43 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-04 18:44 ` Eric Biggers
2023-07-04 20:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-05 10:30 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-05 15:12 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-22 5:35 ` Eric Biggers
2023-08-22 10:11 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2023-10-19 9:16 ` Aleksandr Nogikh
2023-10-24 11:10 ` Jan Kara
2023-10-27 12:06 ` Aleksandr Nogikh
2023-11-08 10:10 ` Jan Kara
2023-11-08 18:24 ` Aleksandr Nogikh
2023-07-04 12:56 ` [PATCH 2/6] fs: Block writes to mounted block devices Jan Kara
2023-07-04 12:56 ` [PATCH 3/6] xfs: Block writes to log device Jan Kara
2023-07-04 15:53 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-05 10:31 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-04 12:56 ` [PATCH 4/6] ext4: Block writes to journal device Jan Kara
2023-07-04 12:56 ` [PATCH 5/6] btrfs: Block writes to seed devices Jan Kara
2023-07-12 14:33 ` David Sterba
2023-07-04 12:56 ` [PATCH 6/6] fs: Make bind mounts work with bdev_allow_write_mounted=n Jan Kara
2023-07-04 13:59 ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-05 13:00 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-05 13:46 ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-05 16:14 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-06 15:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-06 16:12 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-07 7:39 ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-07 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-07 11:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-07 12:28 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-07 11:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-04 13:40 ` [PATCH RFC 0/6 v2] block: Add config option to not allow writing to mounted devices Christian Brauner
2023-07-05 12:27 ` Mike Fleetwood
2023-08-14 16:39 ` Jan Kara
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