From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6EAC15CD60; Tue, 2 Jul 2024 11:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719920595; cv=none; b=ayPLbPTMImuEJ/B2gOaMMFYkHjtyXHdxoBnAFk32eFFibQv+9yUF+CElnUxyo10A5ftth8F5WIG14wFgR/WdA8RTyUWu42WNKs8zm9IcbH5QyHfdGGRiGhP9sfyrAruObC53ep9rhWJjQp+/slm+2KJZGZ3o+wYOIrcrUrSIX8A= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719920595; c=relaxed/simple; bh=MHo+EcPeKT7BzC5eQamoItTx5w8rdsZYQvEej5xDL4E=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=JuF0NkXSbJlycKX2AjXrk/jb1J3W+SXugtnH4YcsGRD8o5ksugyNZhbXrX4u0xTgoOcn/yFqNh2NBtzmOzCCNFnGfPR8cGByBKk7HTiFp+JHx1uIZi0cbEPQMe8LZdKIPG1ZVzOQfuo/iSc+2hzOKapzLeTzpaTThzPTtNIApRo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=KTbXXDXH; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="KTbXXDXH" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD2DDC4AF0C; Tue, 2 Jul 2024 11:43:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1719920595; bh=MHo+EcPeKT7BzC5eQamoItTx5w8rdsZYQvEej5xDL4E=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=KTbXXDXHSmgFeEdF76gZ4e16GaGorYF29q1T+tDZix+ek2IFPAl2sKW8AIOghAAoD sLWtpbhluEuxdyZBnSYWB6XU4oX3q7K2nuGJFmkmIul3mPB/XhA6TcQ8oCnvSLdGz6 IcHRJ9Sw3HYTX51xVl5F4i7xSqQtVBzh4JqdVoJveXP4S3Y7azTQnfqLotqOaB9RoH rNBRGkKj4i448pRS75HwAzlR07HhP6VgoV1eQWHUYLzSIyWfA7hhabK9Jr5KxuhXi/ WPcalCFGdPpybnf0BDYXZL9pOfCstwGVLik3I8M15yRllcVQqRSo/zzjcuoV/A9v2Z HSYEmobWubGOw== Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 13:42:21 +0200 From: Christian Brauner To: Jan Kara Cc: Jeff Layton , Christoph Hellwig , "Darrick J. Wong" , Alexander Viro , Steven Rostedt , Masami Hiramatsu , Mathieu Desnoyers , Chandan Babu R , Theodore Ts'o , Andreas Dilger , Chris Mason , Josef Bacik , David Sterba , Hugh Dickins , Andrew Morton , kernel-team@fb.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] fs: turn inode ctime fields into a single ktime_t Message-ID: <20240702-obigen-boxte-267c97f21bba@brauner> References: <20240626-mgtime-v1-0-a189352d0f8f@kernel.org> <20240626-mgtime-v1-1-a189352d0f8f@kernel.org> <20240701224941.GE612460@frogsfrogsfrogs> <3042db2f803fbc711575ec4f1c4a273912a50904.camel@kernel.org> <20240702101902.qcx73xgae2sqoso7@quack3> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240702101902.qcx73xgae2sqoso7@quack3> > if the > kernel silently tries to accept and fixup the breakage, it is nice in the > short term (no complaining users) but it tends to get ugly in the long term > (where tend people come up with nasty cases where it was wrong to fix it > up). Yeah, very much agree. It works for simple APIs sometimes but it's certainly not something we should just do for filesystems with actual on-disk format.