From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
chandan.babu@oracle.com, dchinner@redhat.com, hch@lst.de,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, catherine.hoang@oracle.com,
martin.petersen@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/13] xfs: Introduce FORCEALIGN inode flag
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 17:04:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240724000411.GV612460@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZqA+6o/fRufaeQHG@dread.disaster.area>
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 09:38:18AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 09:53:14AM +0100, John Garry wrote:
> > On 12/07/2024 00:20, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > > /* Reflink'ed disallowed */
> > > > > + if (flags2 & XFS_DIFLAG2_REFLINK)
> > > > > + return __this_address;
> > > > Hmm. If we don't support reflink + forcealign ATM, then shouldn't the
> > > > superblock verifier or xfs_fs_fill_super fail the mount so that old
> > > > kernels won't abruptly emit EFSCORRUPTED errors if a future kernel adds
> > > > support for forcealign'd cow and starts writing out files with both
> > > > iflags set?
> > > I don't think we should error out the mount because reflink and
> > > forcealign are enabled - that's going to be the common configuration
> > > for every user of forcealign, right? I also don't think we should
> > > throw a corruption error if both flags are set, either.
> > >
> > > We're making an initial*implementation choice* not to implement the
> > > two features on the same inode at the same time. We are not making a
> > > an on-disk format design decision that says "these two on-disk flags
> > > are incompatible".
> > >
> > > IOWs, if both are set on a current kernel, it's not corruption but a
> > > more recent kernel that supports both flags has modified this inode.
> > > Put simply, we have detected a ro-compat situation for this specific
> > > inode.
> > >
> > > Looking at it as a ro-compat situation rather then corruption,
> > > what I would suggest we do is this:
> > >
> > > 1. Warn at mount that reflink+force align inodes will be treated
> > > as ro-compat inodes. i.e. read-only.
> > >
> > > 2. prevent forcealign from being set if the shared extent flag is
> > > set on the inode.
> > >
> > > 3. prevent shared extents from being created if the force align flag
> > > is set (i.e. ->remap_file_range() and anything else that relies on
> > > shared extents will fail on forcealign inodes).
> > >
> > > 4. if we read an inode with both set, we emit a warning and force
> > > the inode to be read only so we don't screw up the force alignment
> > > of the file (i.e. that inode operates in ro-compat mode.)
> > >
> > > #1 is the mount time warning of potential ro-compat behaviour.
> > >
> > > #2 and #3 prevent both from getting set on existing kernels.
> > >
> > > #4 is the ro-compat behaviour that would occur from taking a
> > > filesystem that ran on a newer kernel that supports force-align+COW.
> > > This avoids corruption shutdowns and modifications that would screw
> > > up the alignment of the shared and COW'd extents.
> > >
> >
> > This seems fine for dealing with forcealign and reflink.
> >
> > So what about forcealign and RT?
> >
> > We want to support this config in future, but the current implementation
> > will not support it.
>
> What's the problem with supporting it right from the start? We
> already support forcealign for RT, just it's a global config
> under the "big rt alloc" moniker rather than a per-inode flag.
>
> Like all on-disk format change based features,
> forcealign should add the EXPERIMENTAL flag to the filesystem for a
> couple of releases after merge, so there will be plenty of time to
> test both data and rt dev functionality before removing the
> EXPERIMENTAL flag from it.
>
> So why not just enable the per-inode flag with RT right from the
> start given that this functionality is supposed to work and be
> globally supported by the rtdev right now? It seems like a whole lot
> less work to just enable it for RT now than it is to disable it...
What needs to be done to the rt allocator, anyway?
I think it's mostly turning off the fallback to unaligned allocation,
just like what was done for the data device allocator, right? And
possibly tweaking whatever this does:
/*
* Only bother calculating a real prod factor if offset & length are
* perfectly aligned, otherwise it will just get us in trouble.
*/
div_u64_rem(ap->offset, align, &mod);
if (mod || ap->length % align) {
prod = 1;
} else {
prod = xfs_extlen_to_rtxlen(mp, align);
if (prod > 1)
xfs_rtalloc_align_minmax(&raminlen, &ralen, &prod);
}
> > In this v2 series, I just disallow a mount for forcealign and RT, similar to
> > reflink and RT together.
> >
> > Furthermore, I am also saying here that still forcealign and RT bits set is
> > a valid inode on-disk format and we just have to enforce a sb_rextsize to
> > extsize relationship:
> >
> > xfs_inode_validate_forcealign(
> > struct xfs_mount *mp,
> > uint32_t extsize,
> > uint32_t cowextsize,
> > uint16_t mode,
> > uint16_t flags,
> > uint64_t flags2)
> > {
> > bool rt = flags & XFS_DIFLAG_REALTIME;
> > ...
> >
> >
> > /* extsize must be a multiple of sb_rextsize for RT */
> > if (rt && mp->m_sb.sb_rextsize && extsize % mp->m_sb.sb_rextsize)
> > return __this_address;
> >
> > return NULL;
> > }
>
> I suspect the logic needs tweaking, but why not just do this right
> from the start?
Do we even allow (i_extsize % mp->m_sb.sb_rextsize) != 0 for realtime
files? I didn't think we did.
--D
>
> -Dave.
> --
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-24 0:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-05 16:24 [PATCH v2 00/13] forcealign for xfs John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] xfs: only allow minlen allocations when near ENOSPC John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] xfs: always tail align maxlen allocations John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] xfs: simplify extent allocation alignment John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] xfs: make EOF allocation simpler John Garry
2024-08-06 18:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] xfs: introduce forced allocation alignment John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] xfs: align args->minlen for " John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] xfs: Introduce FORCEALIGN inode flag John Garry
2024-07-11 2:59 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-07-11 3:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-11 7:17 ` John Garry
2024-07-11 23:33 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-11 23:20 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-12 4:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18 8:53 ` John Garry
2024-07-23 10:11 ` John Garry
2024-07-23 14:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-23 15:01 ` John Garry
2024-07-23 22:26 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-07-26 14:14 ` John Garry
2024-07-23 23:38 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-24 0:04 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2024-07-24 18:50 ` John Garry
2024-07-24 7:39 ` John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] xfs: Do not free EOF blocks for forcealign John Garry
2024-07-06 7:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08 1:44 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-08 7:36 ` John Garry
2024-07-08 11:12 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-08 14:41 ` John Garry
2024-07-09 7:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] xfs: Update xfs_inode_alloc_unitsize() " John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] xfs: Unmap blocks according to forcealign John Garry
2024-07-06 7:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08 14:48 ` John Garry
2024-07-09 7:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-17 15:24 ` John Garry
2024-07-17 16:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 9:57 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-09 11:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] xfs: Only free full extents for forcealign John Garry
2024-07-06 7:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] xfs: Don't revert allocated offset " John Garry
2024-07-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] xfs: Enable file data forcealign feature John Garry
2024-07-06 7:53 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] forcealign for xfs Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08 7:48 ` John Garry
2024-07-09 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
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