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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	Hans Holmberg <hans.holmberg@wdc.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 21/43] xfs: don't call xfs_can_free_eofblocks from ->release for zoned inodes
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:13:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241213171353.GL6678@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241213052841.GN5630@lst.de>

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 06:28:41AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 02:15:23PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:54:46AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > Zoned file systems require out of place writes and thus can't support
> > > post-EOF speculative preallocations.  Avoid the pointless ilock critical
> > > section to find out that none can be freed.
> > 
> > I wonder if this is true of alwayscow inodes in general, not just zoned
> > inodes?
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something, but AFAICS always_cow still generates
> preallocations in xfs_buffered_write_iomap_begin.  It probably shouldn't.

For non-zoned alwayscow I think it's trying to generate preallocations
in the cow fork to reduce fragmentation of the bmbt since we don't have
to write in the linear order.

Unless... you're talking about preallocations in the data fork?

> Btw, the always_cow code as intended as the common support code for
> zoned and atomic msync style atomic writes, which always require hard
> out of place writes.  It turns out it doesn't actually do that right
> now (see the bounce buffering patch reviewed earlier), which makes it
> a bit of an oddball.  I'd personally love to kill it once the zoned
> code lands, as just running the zoned mode on a regular device actually
> gives you a good way to test always out of place write semantics,
> which ended up diverging a bit from the earlier version after it hit
> the hard reality of hardware actually enforcing out of place writes.

Which patch is the bounce buffering patch?

/me hands himself another cup of coffee

--D

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-13 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-11  8:54 RFC: support for zoned devices Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 01/43] xfs: constify feature checks Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 20:44   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 02/43] xfs: factor out a xfs_rt_check_size helper Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:11   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 03/43] xfs: add a rtg_blocks helper Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:12   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-15 18:10       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 04/43] xfs: move xfs_bmapi_reserve_delalloc to xfs_iomap.c Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:18   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-15 18:13       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 05/43] xfs: don't take m_sb_lock in xfs_fs_statfs Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:42   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-15 18:16       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 06/43] xfs: refactor xfs_fs_statfs Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:24   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:08     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 07/43] xfs: cleanup xfs_vn_getattr Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:24   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 08/43] xfs: report the correct dio alignment for COW inodes Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:29   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 09/43] xfs: generalize the freespace and reserved blocks handling Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:37   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 10/43] xfs: preserve RT reservations across remounts Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  9:15     ` Hans Holmberg
2024-12-15 18:42       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 11/43] xfs: skip always_cow inodes in xfs_reflink_trim_around_shared Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 12/43] xfs: refine the unaligned check for always COW inodes in xfs_file_dio_write Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:44   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 23:14       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 13/43] xfs: support XFS_BMAPI_REMAP in xfs_bmap_del_extent_delay Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:47   ` [PATCH 13/43] xfs: support XFS_BMAPI_REMAP in xfs_bmap_del_extent_delayOM Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 14/43] xfs: add a xfs_rtrmap_first_unwritten_rgbno helper Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 21:48   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 15/43] xfs: define the zoned on-disk format Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 17:09       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  5:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 16/43] xfs: allow internal RT devices for zoned mode Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:06   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 17/43] xfs: don't allow growfs of the data device with internal RT device Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:07   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 18/43] xfs: export zoned geometry via XFS_FSOP_GEOM Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 19/43] xfs: disable sb_frextents for zoned file systems Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:26   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 20/43] xfs: disable FITRIM for zoned RT devices Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:13   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 21/43] xfs: don't call xfs_can_free_eofblocks from ->release for zoned inodes Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:15   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13  5:28     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 17:13       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2024-12-13 17:18         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 22/43] xfs: skip zoned RT inodes in xfs_inodegc_want_queue_rt_file Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 22:15   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 23/43] xfs: parse and validate hardware zone information Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 17:31   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  5:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 24/43] xfs: add the zoned space allocator Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 18:33   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  5:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 25/43] xfs: add support for zoned space reservations Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 21:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  5:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17 16:59       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-19  5:50         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19 16:00           ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-19 17:36             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19 17:37               ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 26/43] xfs: implement zoned garbage collection Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:18   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  5:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17  1:27       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-17  4:06         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17 17:42           ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-18  7:13             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 27/43] xfs: implement buffered writes to zoned RT devices Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:37   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 28/43] xfs: implement direct " Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:39   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 29/43] xfs: wire up zoned block freeing in xfs_rtextent_free_finish_item Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:40   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 30/43] xfs: hide reserved RT blocks from statfs Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:43   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 31/43] xfs: support growfs on zoned file systems Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 32/43] xfs: allow COW forks on zoned file systems in xchk_bmap Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:47   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 33/43] xfs: support xchk_xref_is_used_rt_space on zoned file systems Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17 17:02       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:54 ` [PATCH 34/43] xfs: support xrep_require_rtext_inuse " Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 35/43] xfs: enable fsmap reporting for internal RT devices Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 23:11   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17 17:06       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 36/43] xfs: disable reflink for zoned file systems Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 23:12   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17 17:10       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-18  7:09         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-18 18:16           ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 37/43] xfs: disable rt quotas " Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 23:05   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 38/43] xfs: enable the zoned RT device feature Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:52   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 39/43] xfs: support zone gaps Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 40/43] xfs: add a max_open_zones mount option Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 22:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17 17:12       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 41/43] xfs: support write life time based data placement Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 23:00   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-15  6:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-17 17:14       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-18  7:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-18 18:19           ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 42/43] xfs: wire up the show_stats super operation Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 23:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-11  8:55 ` [PATCH 43/43] xfs: export zone stats in /proc/*/mountstats Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 23:04   ` Darrick J. Wong

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