From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
dchinner@redhat.com, ritesh.list@gmail.com,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, martin.petersen@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] large atomic writes for xfs
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:11:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241217071104.GB19358@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e119d74-868e-4f60-9ed7-ed782d5433da@oracle.com>
On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 05:43:09PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>> So if the redo log uses buffered I/O I can see how that would bloat writes.
>> But then again using buffered I/O for a REDO log seems pretty silly
>> to start with.
>>
>
> Yeah, at the low end, it may make sense to do the 512B write via DIO. But
> OTOH sync'ing many redo log FS blocks at once at the high end can be more
> efficient.
>
> From what I have heard, this was attempted before (using DIO) by some
> vendor, but did not come to much.
I can't see how buffered I/O will be fast than an optimized direct I/O
implementation. Then again compared to very dumb dio code that doesn't
replace the caching in the page I can easily see how dio would be
much worse. But given that people care about optimizing this workload
enough to look into changes all over the kernel I/O stack I would
expected that touching the code to write the redo log should not be
out of the picture.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-17 7:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-10 12:57 [PATCH v2 0/7] large atomic writes for xfs John Garry
2024-12-10 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] iomap: Increase iomap_dio_zero() size limit John Garry
2024-12-10 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] iomap: Add zero unwritten mappings dio support John Garry
2024-12-11 23:47 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-12 10:40 ` John Garry
2024-12-12 20:40 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-13 10:43 ` John Garry
2024-12-13 14:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-14 0:56 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-17 7:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-18 11:15 ` John Garry
2025-01-08 1:26 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-08 11:39 ` John Garry
2025-01-08 17:42 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-09 7:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-10 11:59 ` John Garry
2024-12-10 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] iomap: Lift blocksize restriction on atomic writes John Garry
2024-12-10 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] xfs: Add extent zeroing support for " John Garry
2024-12-10 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] xfs: Switch atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2024-12-10 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] xfs: Add RT atomic write unit max to xfs_mount John Garry
2024-12-10 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] xfs: Update xfs_get_atomic_write_attr() for large atomic writes John Garry
2024-12-13 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] large atomic writes for xfs Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 17:15 ` John Garry
2024-12-13 17:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 17:43 ` John Garry
2024-12-14 0:42 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-16 8:40 ` John Garry
2024-12-17 7:11 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-12-17 8:23 ` John Garry
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