From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
brauner@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org, dchinner@redhat.com,
ritesh.list@gmail.com, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
martin.petersen@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] iomap: Lift blocksize restriction on atomic writes
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:42:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250122064247.GA31374@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250117184934.GI1611770@frogsfrogsfrogs>
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 10:49:34AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> The trouble is that the br_startoff attribute of cow staging mappings
> aren't persisted on disk anywhere, which is why exchange-range can't
> handle the cow fork. You could open an O_TMPFILE and swap between the
> two files, though that gets expensive per-io unless you're willing to
> stash that temp file somewhere.
Needing another inode is better than trying to steal ranges from the
actual inode we're operating on. But we might just need a different
kind of COW staging for that.
>
> At this point I think we should slap the usual EXPERIMENTAL warning on
> atomic writes through xfs and let John land the simplest multi-fsblock
> untorn write support, which only handles the corner case where all the
> stars are <cough> aligned; and then make an exchange-range prototype
> and/or all the other forcealign stuff.
That is the worst of all possible outcomes. Combing up with an
atomic API that fails for random reasons only on aged file systems
is literally the worst thing we can do. NAK.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-22 6:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-04 15:43 [PATCH 0/4] large atomic writes for xfs John Garry
2024-12-04 15:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] iomap: Lift blocksize restriction on atomic writes John Garry
2024-12-04 20:35 ` Dave Chinner
2024-12-05 6:30 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-05 11:51 ` John Garry
2024-12-05 10:52 ` John Garry
2024-12-05 21:15 ` Dave Chinner
2024-12-06 9:43 ` John Garry
2024-12-12 1:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-14 4:41 ` Dave Chinner
2025-01-14 23:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-15 9:30 ` John Garry
2025-01-16 6:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-17 18:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-22 6:42 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-01-22 10:45 ` John Garry
2025-01-22 23:51 ` Dave Chinner
2025-01-23 9:28 ` John Garry
2025-01-17 10:26 ` John Garry
2025-01-17 18:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-20 8:29 ` John Garry
2025-01-22 21:05 ` Dave Chinner
2025-01-13 21:35 ` John Garry
2025-01-14 4:43 ` Dave Chinner
2024-12-04 15:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] xfs: Switch atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2024-12-04 15:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] xfs: Add RT atomic write unit max to xfs_mount John Garry
2024-12-04 15:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] xfs: Update xfs_get_atomic_write_attr() for large atomic writes John Garry
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