From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15C25198823; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 05:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1742276124; cv=none; b=srRKGJWDiRGqmmtAIJrVRkOjnH4yVQBnZeicvBLTUnE3LG6KbKSoHyrQvEEhw3OoFZCRNegxcVbCwzzlVZ6IQk8zKYATe4F6gHVrvlxCKVb6o4DnXZ43o7hsQOtwlE7FTVVaI3om/j/0r+pirUqo6axZ7nO7ZReXcCPKr5GzxoE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1742276124; c=relaxed/simple; bh=+c2x5ERmBnWghzUV765Rd1l4qABHJdiuFIAKuTNH+jQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=hgIrZ4NjeWrK0mYpxI3Fjvrje6rS4a9hkKTWySjUshI9hFmazqDdV5QPmSNMunGl2Bc+RBXXWzA7wNV2X4MKAaXKTpT/+QyHakyGO4Qvv3USN7zI7jbYyQNQUsYZ9HgSnDYouGkH0lBwS3x7t+jW0hScv2jIGrsT8ZueREyhWQE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id E37EF68AA6; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:35:16 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: John Garry Cc: "Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" , brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org, dchinner@redhat.com, hch@lst.de, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com, tytso@mit.edu, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/13] xfs: iomap COW-based atomic write support Message-ID: <20250318053516.GC14470@lst.de> References: <20250313171310.1886394-1-john.g.garry@oracle.com> <20250313171310.1886394-11-john.g.garry@oracle.com> <8734fd79g1.fsf@gmail.com> <87r02vspqq.fsf@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 02:56:52PM +0000, John Garry wrote: > ok, fine. I am just worried that these commit messages become too wordy. > But, if people want this info, then I can provide it. While too wordy commit messages do exit, you're really far from that threshold. So yes, please explain this. I think we also really need a document outside of commit logs and comments that explains the exact atomic write semantics and how we implement them between the hardware offload and always COW writes.