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From: Chandan Rajendra <chandan@linux.ibm.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Allison Collins <allison.henderson@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/19] xfs: Delayed Ready Attrs
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 14:01:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2644091.QCrdQm5Jf7@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgvJOF6+jd9BuJfxxGQbiit6J7zVOVnigwLb-RWizRqfg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:25 PM Amir Goldstein wrote: 
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 4:06 AM Allison Collins
> <allison.henderson@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This set is a subset of a larger series for delayed attributes. Which is
> > a subset of an even larger series, parent pointers. Delayed attributes
> > allow attribute operations (set and remove) to be logged and committed
> > in the same way that other delayed operations do. This allows more
> > complex operations (like parent pointers) to be broken up into multiple
> > smaller transactions. To do this, the existing attr operations must be
> > modified to operate as either a delayed operation or a inline operation
> > since older filesystems will not be able to use the new log entries.
> 
> High level question, before I dive into the series:
>

Hi Amir,

My 2 cents on this topic (Assuming "delayed operations" refer to "deferred
ops") ... 

> Which other "delayed operations" already exist?

static const struct xfs_defer_op_type *defer_op_types[] = {
        [XFS_DEFER_OPS_TYPE_BMAP]       = &xfs_bmap_update_defer_type,
        [XFS_DEFER_OPS_TYPE_REFCOUNT]   = &xfs_refcount_update_defer_type,
        [XFS_DEFER_OPS_TYPE_RMAP]       = &xfs_rmap_update_defer_type,
        [XFS_DEFER_OPS_TYPE_FREE]       = &xfs_extent_free_defer_type,
        [XFS_DEFER_OPS_TYPE_AGFL_FREE]  = &xfs_agfl_free_defer_type,
};


> I think delayed operations were added by Darrick to handle the growth of
> translation size due to reflink. Right? So I assume the existing delayed
> operations deal with block accounting.

IIRC, Deferred ops are meant to not violate the AG locking order.  If AG 'x'
metadata block[s] is locked then we can only lock metadata blocks of AGs
starting from 'x+1'. Transactions can return -EAGAIN when they detect that
they need to lock metadata blocks belonging to AG 'x-1' or less. In such a
case the transaction will be rolled during which the locks on metadata blocks
are given up.

> When speaking of parent pointers, without having looked into the details yet,
> it seem the delayed operations we would want to log are operations that deal
> with namespace changes, i.e.: link,unlink,rename.
> The information needed to be logged for these ops is minimal.
> Why do we need a general infrastructure for delayed attr operations?
> 
> Thanks,
> Amir.
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
chandan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-24  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-23  2:05 [PATCH v7 00/19] xfs: Delayed Ready Attrs Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:05 ` [PATCH v7 01/19] xfs: Replace attribute parameters with struct xfs_name Allison Collins
2020-02-23  9:34   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 16:03     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  0:49       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-24 12:08   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-24 16:25     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24 13:06   ` Brian Foster
2020-02-24 16:25     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:05 ` [PATCH v7 02/19] xfs: Embed struct xfs_name in xfs_da_args Allison Collins
2020-02-23 11:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 16:51     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24  6:50       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-24  7:36         ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24  7:43           ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-25  0:57   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25  2:00     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  4:06       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25  4:19         ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  4:27           ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-25  6:07             ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  6:30               ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25 17:21             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-25  6:56   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-25 23:26     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:05 ` [PATCH v7 03/19] xfs: Add xfs_has_attr and subroutines Allison Collins
2020-02-23 12:20   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 17:28     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24  6:58       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-25  6:26     ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25  6:43       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-25 22:27         ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-24 13:08   ` Brian Foster
2020-02-24 21:18     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25 13:25       ` Brian Foster
2020-02-26  2:31         ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  9:49   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-25 10:15     ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-26  2:19       ` Allison Collins
2020-02-26  2:18     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:05 ` [PATCH v7 04/19] xfs: Check for -ENOATTR or -EEXIST Allison Collins
2020-02-23 12:25   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 17:33     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24 13:08   ` Brian Foster
2020-02-24 21:18     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:05 ` [PATCH v7 05/19] xfs: Factor out new helper functions xfs_attr_rmtval_set Allison Collins
2020-02-25 12:53   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-26  2:20     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:05 ` [PATCH v7 06/19] xfs: Factor out trans handling in xfs_attr3_leaf_flipflags Allison Collins
2020-02-23 12:30   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 17:36     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28  4:56   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:05 ` [PATCH v7 07/19] xfs: Factor out xfs_attr_leaf_addname helper Allison Collins
2020-02-23 12:42   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 18:38     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24  6:38       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-24  7:09         ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24  7:27           ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-25  6:42   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25 13:26     ` Brian Foster
2020-02-25 23:26     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28  6:51   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 08/19] xfs: Refactor xfs_attr_try_sf_addname Allison Collins
2020-02-23 13:04   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 17:51     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24 13:08   ` Brian Foster
2020-02-24 21:19     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28  7:42   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-28 18:14     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 09/19] xfs: Factor out trans roll from xfs_attr3_leaf_setflag Allison Collins
2020-02-28  7:59   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 10/19] xfs: Factor out xfs_attr_rmtval_invalidate Allison Collins
2020-02-28 10:42   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 11/19] xfs: Factor out trans roll in xfs_attr3_leaf_clearflag Allison Collins
2020-02-28 10:56   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 12/19] xfs: Add helper function xfs_attr_rmtval_unmap Allison Collins
2020-02-24 13:40   ` Brian Foster
2020-02-24 21:44     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25 13:27       ` Brian Foster
2020-02-26  3:29         ` Allison Collins
2020-02-26 13:47           ` Brian Foster
2020-02-25  7:21   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25 23:27     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-28 14:22   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 13/19] xfs: Add delay ready attr remove routines Allison Collins
2020-02-24 15:25   ` Brian Foster
2020-02-24 17:03     ` Brian Foster
2020-02-24 23:14     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24 23:56       ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-25 13:34       ` Brian Foster
2020-02-26  5:36         ` Allison Collins
2020-02-26 13:48           ` Brian Foster
2020-02-26 19:23             ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  8:57   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-26  0:57     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-26 22:34       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-27  4:18         ` Allison Collins
2020-03-03  5:03   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-03-03  5:40     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 14/19] xfs: Add delay ready attr set routines Allison Collins
2020-03-03 13:41   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-03-03 17:07     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 15/19] xfs: Add helper function xfs_attr_node_shrink Allison Collins
2020-02-23 13:22   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 18:41     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  9:05   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-26  1:48     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 16/19] xfs: Simplify xfs_attr_set_iter Allison Collins
2020-02-23 13:26   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 18:42     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  9:21   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-26  2:13     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-26 22:39       ` Dave Chinner
2020-03-04  4:30   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-03-04 17:04     ` Allison Collins
2020-03-05  3:39       ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 17/19] xfs: Add helper function xfs_attr_leaf_mark_incomplete Allison Collins
2020-02-23 13:47   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 18:43     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  9:31   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-26  2:17     ` Allison Collins
2020-03-04  4:37   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 18/19] xfs: Add remote block helper functions Allison Collins
2020-02-23 13:45   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-03-04  4:59   ` Chandan Rajendra
2020-02-23  2:06 ` [PATCH v7 19/19] xfs: Remove xfs_attr_rmtval_remove Allison Collins
2020-02-23 13:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 18:50     ` Allison Collins
2020-02-23  7:55 ` [PATCH v7 00/19] xfs: Delayed Ready Attrs Amir Goldstein
2020-02-23 16:02   ` Allison Collins
2020-02-24  6:30     ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-24 16:23       ` Allison Collins
2020-02-25  5:53         ` Amir Goldstein
2020-02-24  8:31   ` Chandan Rajendra [this message]
2020-02-25  9:52   ` Dave Chinner

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