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From: Gim Leong Chin <chingimleong@yahoo.com.sg>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: allocsize mount option
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:42:16 +0800 (SGT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <348821.11898.qm@web76206.mail.sg1.yahoo.com> (raw)

Hi,


The application is ANSYS, which writes 128 GB files.  The existing computer with SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 which is used for running ANSYS, has two software RAID 0 devices made up of five 1 TB drives.  The /home partition is 4.5 T, and it is now 4 TB full.  I see a fragmentation > 19%.


I have just set up a new computer with 16 WD Cavair Black 1 TB drives connected to an Areca 1680ix-16 RAID with 4 GB cache.  14 of these drives are in RAID 6 with 128 kB stripes.  The OS is also SLED 11.  The system has 16 GB memory, and AMD Phenom II X4 965 CPU.

I have done tests writing 100 30 MB files and 1 GB, 10 GB and 20 GB files, with single instance and multiple instances.

There is a big difference in writing speed when writing 20 GB files when using allocsize=1g and not using the option.  That is without the inode64 option, which gives further speed gains.

I use dd for writing the 1 GB, 10 GB and 20 GB files.

mkfs.xfs -f -b size=4k -d agcount=32,su=128k,sw=12 -i size=256,align=1,attr=2 -l version=2,su=128k,lazy-count=1 -n version=2 -s size=512 -L /data /dev/sdb1


defaults,nobarrier,usrquota,grpquota,noatime,nodiratime,allocsize=1g,logbufs=8,logbsize=256k,largeio,swalloc

The start of the partition has been set to LBA 3072 using GPT Fdisk to align the stripes.

The dd command is:

chingl@tsunami:/data/test/t2> dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile20GB bs=1073741824 count=20

Single instance of 20 GB dd repeats were 214, 221, 123 MB/s with allocsize=1g, compared to 94, 126 MB/s without.

Two instances of 20 GB dd repeats were aggregate 331, 372 MB/s with allocsize=1g, compared to 336, 296 MB/s without.

Three instances of 20 GB dd was aggregate 400 MB/s with, 326 MB/s without.

Six instances of 20 GB dd was 606 MB/s with, 473 MB/s without.


My production configuration is

defaults,nobarrier,usrquota,grpquota,noatime,nodiratime,allocsize=1g,logbufs=8,logbsize=256k,largeio,swalloc,inode64

for which I got up to 297 MB/s for single instance 20 GB dd.



Chin Gim Leong


--- On Tue, 12/1/10, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net> wrote:

> From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
> Subject: Re: allocsize mount option
> To: "Gim Leong Chin" <chingimleong@yahoo.com.sg>
> Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
> Date: Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 2:16 AM
> Gim Leong Chin wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Mount options for xfs allocsize=size Sets  the
> buffered I/O
> > end-of-file preallocation size when doing delayed
> allocation writeout
> > (default size is 64KiB).
> > 
> > 
> > I read that setting allocsize to a big value can be
> used to combat
> > filesystem fragmentation when writing big files.
> 
> That's not universally necessary though, depending on how
> you are
> writing them.  I've only used it in the very specific
> case of mythtv
> calling "sync" every couple seconds, and defeating
> delalloc.
> 
> > I do not understand how allocsize works.  Say I
> set allocsize=1g, but
> > my file size is only 1 MB or even smaller.  Will
> the rest of the 1 GB
> > file extent be allocated, resulting in wasted space
> and even file
> > fragmentation problem?
> 
> possibly :)  It's only speculatively allocated,
> though, so you won't
> have 1g for every file; when it's closed the preallocation
> goes
> away, IIRC.
> 
> > Does setting allocsize to a big value result in
> performance gain when
> > writing big files?  Is performance hurt by a big
> value setting when
> > writing files smaller than the allocsize value?
> > 
> > I am setting up a system for HPC, where two different
> applications
> > have different file size characteristics, one writes
> files of GBs and
> > even 128 GB, the other is in MBs to tens of MBs.
> 
> We should probably back up and say:  are you seeing
> fragmentation
> problems -without- the mount option, and if so, what is
> your write pattern?
> 
> -Eric
> 
> > I am not able to find documentation on the behaviour
> of allocsize
> > mount option.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > Chin Gim Leong
> > 
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             reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13  9:42 Gim Leong Chin [this message]
2010-01-13 10:50 ` allocsize mount option Dave Chinner
2010-01-13 22:59   ` xfstests: Clean up build output Alex Elder
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-20 20:41 allocsize mount option Peter Vajgel
2011-01-21  0:48 ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-28 18:53 Ivan.Novick
2010-09-29  0:31 ` Dave Chinner
2010-01-24  6:44 Gim Leong Chin
2010-01-15  3:08 Gim Leong Chin
2010-01-14 17:25 Gim Leong Chin
2010-01-14 17:42 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-01-14 23:28 ` Dave Chinner
2010-01-11 17:25 Gim Leong Chin
2010-01-11 18:16 ` Eric Sandeen

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