From: Lachlan McIlroy <lachlan@sgi.com>
To: lachlan@sgi.com
Cc: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, xfs-dev <xfs-dev@sgi.com>,
xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bulkstat fixups
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:42:54 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <473D1FCE.8030705@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <473D1DE0.1090106@sgi.com>
Forgot to mention - this patch is just fs/xfs/xfs_itable.c. That's the
only file that has been updated since the last patch.
Lachlan McIlroy wrote:
> Updated patch - I added cond_resched() calls into each loop - for loops
> that
> have a 'continue' somewhere in them I added the cond_resched() at the
> start,
> otherwise I put it at the end.
>
> David Chinner wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 01:57:33PM +1100, Lachlan McIlroy wrote:
>>> David Chinner wrote:
>>>> [Lachlan, can you wrap your email text at 72 columns for ease of
>>>> quoting?]
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 04:24:02PM +1100, Lachlan McIlroy wrote:
>>>>> Here's a collection of fixups for bulkstat for all the remaining
>>>>> issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> - sanity check for NULL user buffer in xfs_ioc_bulkstat[_compat]()
>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>>> - remove the special case for XFS_IOC_FSBULKSTAT with count == 1.
>>>>> This special
>>>>> case causes bulkstat to fail because the special case uses
>>>>> xfs_bulkstat_single()
>>>>> instead of xfs_bulkstat() and the two functions have different
>>>>> semantics.
>>>>> xfs_bulkstat() will return the next inode after the one supplied
>>>>> while skipping
>>>>> internal inodes (ie quota inodes). xfs_bulkstate_single() will
>>>>> only lookup the
>>>>> inode supplied and return an error if it is an internal inode.
>>>> Userspace visile change. What applications do we have that rely on this
>>>> behaviour that will be broken by this change?
>>> Any apps that rely on the existing behaviour are probably broken. If
>>> an app
>>> wants to call xfs_bulkstat_single() it should use
>>> XFS_IOC_FSBULKSTAT_SINGLE.
>>
>> Perhaps, but we can't arbitrarily decide that those apps will now
>> break on
>> a new kernel with this change. At minimum we need to audit all of the
>> code
>> we have that uses bulkstat for such breakage (including DMF!) before
>> we make a
>> change like this.
>
> I've looked through everything we have in xfs-cmds and nothing relies on
> this bug being present. Vlad helped me with the DMF side - DMF does not
> use the XFS_IOC_FSBULKSTAT ioctl, it has it's own interface into the kernel
> which calls xfs_bulkstat() directly so it wont be affected by this change.
>
>>
>>>>> - checks against 'ubleft' (the space left in the user's buffer)
>>>>> should be against
>>>>> 'statstruct_size' which is the supplied minimum object size. The
>>>>> mixture of
>>>>> checks against statstruct_size and 0 was one of the reasons we
>>>>> were skipping
>>>>> inodes.
>>>> Can you wrap these checks in a static inline function so that it is
>>>> obvious
>>>> what the correct way to check is and we don't reintroduce this
>>>> porblem? i.e.
>>>>
>>>> static inline int
>>>> xfs_bulkstat_ubuffer_large_enough(ssize_t space)
>>>> {
>>>> return (space > sizeof(struct blah));
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> That will also remove a stack variable....
>>> That won't work - statstruct_size is passed into xfs_bulkstat() so we
>>> don't
>>> know what 'blah' is. Maybe a macro would be easier.
>>>
>>> #define XFS_BULKSTAT_UBLEFT (ubleft >= statstruct_size)
>>
>> Yeah, something like that, but I don't like macros with no parameters
>> used
>> like that....
>>
>>>> FWIW - missing from this set of patches - cpu_relax() in the loops.
>>>> In the case
>>>> where no I/O is required to do the scan, we can hold the cpu for a
>>>> long time
>>>> and that will hold off I/O completion, etc for the cpu bulkstat is
>>>> running on.
>>>> Hence after every cluster we scan we should cpu_relax() to allow other
>>>> processes cpu time on that cpu.
>>>>
>>> I don't get how cpu_relax() works. I see that it is called at times
>>> with a
>>> spinlock held so it wont trigger a context switch. Does it give
>>> interrupts a chance to run?
>>
>> Sorry, my mistake - confused cpu_relax() with cond_resched(). take the
>> above
>> paragraph and s/cpu_relax/cond_resched/g
>>
>>> It appears to be used where a minor delay is needed - I don't think
>>> we have any
>>> cases in xfs_bulkstat() where we need to wait for an event that isn't
>>> I/O.
>>
>> The issue is when we're hitting cached buffers and we never end up
>> waiting
>> for I/O - we will then monopolise the cpu we are running on and hold off
>> all other processing. It's antisocial and leads to high latencies for
>> other
>> code.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-16 4:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-09 5:24 [PATCH] bulkstat fixups Lachlan McIlroy
2007-11-09 5:35 ` Vlad Apostolov
2007-11-11 21:48 ` David Chinner
2007-11-12 2:57 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2007-11-12 4:11 ` David Chinner
2007-11-16 4:34 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2007-11-16 4:42 ` Lachlan McIlroy [this message]
2007-11-19 3:02 ` David Chinner
2007-11-21 15:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-21 21:31 ` David Chinner
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