From: Lachlan McIlroy <lachlan@sgi.com>
To: Lachlan McIlroy <lachlan@sgi.com>, Peter Leckie <pleckie@sgi.com>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, xfs-dev@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Use atomic_t and wait_event to track dquot pincount
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:38:45 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48DC5945.9060506@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080926025718.GJ27997@disturbed>
Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:32:43AM +1000, Lachlan McIlroy wrote:
>> Dave Chinner wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 06:43:43PM +1000, Peter Leckie wrote:
>>>> However xfssyncd has had a long history of the task being woken up
>>>> from other code,
>>>> so it looks like it's simply not safe for either the aild or xfssyncd
>>>> to sleep on a queue assuming that
>>>> no one else will wake the processes up.
>>> Given that both xfsaild and xfssyncd are supposed to be doing
>>> non-blocking flushes, neither of them should ever be waiting on a
>>> pinned item, therefore fixing that problem in xfs_qm_dqflush()
>>> should make this problem go away. It will also substantially
>>> reduce tehnumber of log forces being triggered by dquot writeback
>>> which will have positive impact on performance, too.
>>>
>>>> So I would say the fix I proposed is a good solution for this issue.
>>> but it doesn't fix the underlying problem that was causing the
>>> spurious wakeups, which is the fact that xfs_qm_dqflush() is not
>>> obeying non-blocking flush directions.
>> The underlying problem has nothing to do with xfs_qm_dqflush() - the
>> spurious wakeups are caused by calls to wake_up_process() that arbitrarily
>> wake up a process that is in a state where it shouldn't be woken up.
>
> Spurious wakeups are causing problems in a place where we should not
> even be sleeping. If you don't sleep there, you can't get spurious
> wakeups....
>
>> If we don't fix the spurious wakeups then we could easily re-introduce this
>> problem again.
>
> Right, but keep in mind that the patch doesn't prevent spurious
> wakeups - it merely causes the thread to wakeup and go back to sleep
Yes that's right and it's why I suggested replacing the uses of wake_up_process
with wake_up and a wait queue where both the xfsaild and xfssyncd threads can
have a wait queue specific to them. This way we only wake them up if they are
sleeping on that wait queue and not somewhere else waiting for a different event.
I'm pretty sure that will be a safe change to make.
> when a spurious wakeup occurs. The patch I posted avoids the
> spurious wakeup problem completely, which is what we should be
> aiming to do given it avoids the overhead of 2 context switches
> and speeds up the rate at which we can flush unpinned dquots.
>
> That being said, I agree that the original patch is still desirable,
> though not from a bug-fix perspective. It's a cleanup and
> optimisation patch, with the nice side effect of preventing future
> occurrences of the spurious wakeup problem....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-26 3:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-24 4:28 [PATCH] Use atomic_t and wait_event to track dquot pincount Peter Leckie
2008-09-24 6:05 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-24 6:53 ` Peter Leckie
2008-09-24 7:43 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-24 7:26 ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Leckie
2008-09-24 7:42 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2008-09-24 7:46 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-24 8:03 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2008-09-24 14:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-24 8:15 ` Peter Leckie
2008-09-25 1:03 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-25 8:43 ` Peter Leckie
2008-09-25 9:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-26 0:34 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-26 1:09 ` Peter Leckie
2008-09-26 1:26 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2008-09-27 1:08 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-26 1:32 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2008-09-26 1:38 ` Peter Leckie
2008-09-26 1:44 ` Mark Goodwin
2008-09-26 1:54 ` Peter Leckie
2008-09-26 11:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-26 2:57 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-26 3:38 ` Lachlan McIlroy [this message]
2008-09-27 1:11 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-26 11:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-26 11:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-27 1:18 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-26 1:10 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2008-09-26 11:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-29 3:08 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2008-09-29 21:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-24 14:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-25 1:08 ` Dave Chinner
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