oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Russell Cattelan]

I've set up mailman on oss in an effort to dump the current list 
handling software (ecartis),
which has been causing us fits for a while now.

I would be helpful if a few people would sign up to the new list to help 
test out the
install and configuration, so we can make sure things still show up 
correctly.

The signup url is
http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs

or send an email to xfs-subscribe@oss.sgi.com with "subscribe" as the 
subject.

If everything works out then I will move the entire list over to using 
mailman.

Note the old list and new list are running in parallel so unless you 
have a duplicate
filter unsubscribing from the old list is also recommended.
http://oss.sgi.com/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi

The archives can be viewed at
http://oss.sgi.com/pipermail/xfs/

I haven't quite come up with a plan for the archives, right now
that is also running in parallel so we can lean one way or the
other depending on what is preferred.


-Russell

Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Dave Chinner]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:25:33AM -0500, Russell Cattelan wrote:
> I've set up mailman on oss in an effort to dump the current list  
> handling software (ecartis),
> which has been causing us fits for a while now.
>
> I would be helpful if a few people would sign up to the new list to help  
> test out the
> install and configuration, so we can make sure things still show up  
> correctly.
>
> The signup url is
> http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs

What is the point? Let's just move the list to vger.kernel.org and
we can forget about all these problems....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Christoph Hellwig]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:50:31AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> What is the point? Let's just move the list to vger.kernel.org and
> we can forget about all these problems....

Yeah.  ecartis is just part of the problem.  barracuda is another at
least as big problem, and I guess there are many other hiding.

Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Eric Sandeen]

Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:50:31AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> What is the point? Let's just move the list to vger.kernel.org and
>> we can forget about all these problems....
> 
> Yeah.  ecartis is just part of the problem.  barracuda is another at
> least as big problem, and I guess there are many other hiding.

I suppose that this is sgi's decision in the end ;)  Any comment from
those folks?

-Eric

Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Mark Goodwin]

Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:50:31AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>> What is the point? Let's just move the list to vger.kernel.org and
>>> we can forget about all these problems....
>> Yeah.  ecartis is just part of the problem.  barracuda is another at
>> least as big problem, and I guess there are many other hiding.
> 
> I suppose that this is sgi's decision in the end ;)  Any comment from
> those folks?

just discussing it with various people now - will send out something 
later today.

Cheers
-- Mark

> 
> -Eric
> 
> 

-- 

  Mark Goodwin                                  markgw@sgi.com
  Engineering Manager for XFS and PCP    Phone: +61-3-99631937
  SGI Australian Software Group           Cell: +61-4-18969583
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Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Russell Cattelan]

Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:50:31AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>   
>> What is the point? Let's just move the list to vger.kernel.org and
>> we can forget about all these problems....
>>     
>
> Yeah.  ecartis is just part of the problem.  barracuda is another at
> least as big problem, and I guess there are many other hiding.
>
>   
ya it has dropped 39 messages this month
oss[5:59pm]#formail -x Subject: -s < xfs.2008-10 |wc -l
741
oss[5:59pm]#formail -x Subject: -s < xfs-procmail-2008_10  | wc -l
780


I think using mailman will clear up the dropped mail problems.

What other issues do you think is there?

The barracuda problem is outside of oss and affects all mail from 1st.de 
to sgi.

Did you ever find out why barracuda thinks your ip has  a "poor" rating?

Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Mark Goodwin]

Russell Cattelan wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:50:31AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>  
>>> What is the point? Let's just move the list to vger.kernel.org and
>>> we can forget about all these problems....
>>>     
>>
>> Yeah.  ecartis is just part of the problem.  barracuda is another at
>> least as big problem, and I guess there are many other hiding.
>>
>>   
> ya it has dropped 39 messages this month
> oss[5:59pm]#formail -x Subject: -s < xfs.2008-10 |wc -l
> 741
> oss[5:59pm]#formail -x Subject: -s < xfs-procmail-2008_10  | wc -l
> 780
> 
> 
> I think using mailman will clear up the dropped mail problems.
> 
> What other issues do you think is there?

I will reply later today on this

> 
> The barracuda problem is outside of oss and affects all mail from 1st.de 
> to sgi.

all mail to any list @sgi.com goes thru the internal barracuda spam filter.

> 
> Did you ever find out why barracuda thinks your ip has  a "poor" rating?
> 

Christoph's IP has now been whitelisted (or should have been by now).
I have no insight as to which other IP addresses have a poor rating,
there may be others (that are not spammers).

-- Mark

Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Mark Goodwin]

Russell Cattelan wrote:
> If everything works out then I will move the entire list over to using
> mailman.

Or over to vger, as we've been discussing. I'd like to delay any
significant change until (a) after we have git'ified our patch flow
and tree management processes (shortly after the .28 pull req goes out),
and (b) the new oss.sgi.com has been set up and all content rsync'd
across. This machine exists but Trev is currently occupied on other
tasks.

We're going to want more than just a new mailing list or handler.
We also need a wiki for docs (news, arch, blogs, training, papers,
etc), something like patchwork for tracking submissions, and more, etc.
It doesn't make much sense to start setting this up on the current oss
and then do it all again on the new oss.

So can we please hobble along for another week or two?

Thanks
-- Mark

Re: oss.sgi.com and mailman, looking for volunteers.

[Dave Chinner]

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 03:06:19PM +1100, Mark Goodwin wrote:
>
>
> Russell Cattelan wrote:
>> If everything works out then I will move the entire list over to using
>> mailman.
>
> Or over to vger, as we've been discussing. I'd like to delay any
> significant change until (a) after we have git'ified our patch flow
> and tree management processes (shortly after the .28 pull req goes out),
> and (b) the new oss.sgi.com has been set up and all content rsync'd
> across. This machine exists but Trev is currently occupied on other
> tasks.
>
> We're going to want more than just a new mailing list or handler.
> We also need a wiki for docs (news, arch, blogs, training, papers,
> etc)

That's already been set up on xfs.org. We don't need to duplicate
that again, do we?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com