From: Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
To: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: xfs_repair of critical volume
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 22:49:25 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CFB19D5.7010301@hardwarefreak.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012041130.20344.Martin@lichtvoll.de>
Martin Steigerwald put forth on 12/4/2010 4:30 AM:
> Am Freitag 12 November 2010 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
>> Michael Monnerie put forth on 11/12/2010 7:22 AM:
>>> I find the robustness of XFS amazing: You overwrote 1/5th of the disk
>>> with zeroes, and it still works :-)
>>
>> This isn't "robustness" Michael. If anything it's a serious problem.
>> XFS is reporting that hundreds or thousands of files that have been
>> physically removed still exist. Regardless of how he arrived at this
>> position, how is this "robust"? Most people would consider this
>> inconsistency of state a "corruption" situation, not "robustness".
>
> I think its necessary to differentiate here:
>
> 1) It appears to be robustness - or pure luck - regarding metadata
> consistency of the filesystem. I tend to believe its pure luck and that XFS
> just stored the metadata on the other RAID arrays.
>
> 2) XFS does not seem to have a way to detect whether file contents are
> still valid and consistent. It shares that with I think every other Linux
> filesystem instead BTRFS which uses checksumming for files. (Maybe NILFS as
> well, I don't know, and the FUSE or the other ZFS port).
After re-reading my own words above again, I feel I a need to clarify
something: I took exception merely to the description of "robustness"
being used in this situation. I was not and am not being derogatory of
XFS in any way. I love XFS. Of all available filesystems (on any OS) I
feel it is the best. That's why I use it. :)
In this scenario, other filesystems may have left the OP empty handed.
So, I guess XFS deserves deserves a positive attribution for this. But,
again, I don't think "robustness" is the correct attribution here.
--
Stan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-05 4:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-31 7:54 xfs_repair of critical volume Eli Morris
2010-10-31 9:54 ` Stan Hoeppner
2010-11-12 8:48 ` Eli Morris
2010-11-12 13:22 ` Michael Monnerie
2010-11-12 22:14 ` Stan Hoeppner
2010-11-13 8:19 ` Emmanuel Florac
2010-11-13 9:28 ` Stan Hoeppner
2010-11-13 15:35 ` Michael Monnerie
2010-11-14 3:31 ` Stan Hoeppner
2010-12-04 10:30 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-12-05 4:49 ` Stan Hoeppner [this message]
2010-12-05 9:44 ` Roger Willcocks
2010-11-12 23:01 ` Eli Morris
2010-11-13 15:25 ` Michael Monnerie
2010-11-14 11:05 ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-15 4:09 ` Eli Morris
2010-11-16 0:04 ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-17 7:29 ` Eli Morris
2010-11-17 7:47 ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-30 7:22 ` Eli Morris
2010-12-02 11:33 ` Michael Monnerie
2010-12-03 0:58 ` Stan Hoeppner
2010-12-04 0:43 ` Eli Morris
2010-10-31 14:10 ` Emmanuel Florac
2010-10-31 14:41 ` Steve Costaras
2010-10-31 16:52 ` Roger Willcocks
2010-11-01 22:21 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-01 23:32 ` Eli Morris
2010-11-02 0:14 ` Eric Sandeen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-31 19:56 Eli Morris
2010-10-31 20:40 ` Emmanuel Florac
2010-11-01 3:40 ` Eli Morris
2010-11-01 10:07 ` Emmanuel Florac
2010-10-31 21:10 ` Steve Costaras
2010-11-01 15:03 ` Stan Hoeppner
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