Re: repeated abuses of the XFS list

Re: repeated abuses of the XFS list

[Russell Cattelan]

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You must be joking!
I'm not about to ban one of the most knowledgeable and productive
xfs developers from the email list.

I see nothing particularly offensive about these posts.

I can understand you may upset about what Christoph said but
he has every right to state his opinions on things no matter how
much you disagree.

-Russell



On 4/5/12 6:43 PM, Peter Grandi wrote:
> Hi, you are listed as the owner of the XFS mailing list, and I
> wish to complain that Cristoph Hellwig, have repeatedly made
> malicious personal attacks, for example:
> 
>   http://oss.sgi.com/pipermail/xfs/2012-April/018176.html
>   http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2012-03/msg00376.html
> 
> Please ban him because he is turning the XFS mailing list in a
> disreputable vehicle for offtopic and offensive flaming.
> 
> This to me this looks like mobbing, beause coordinated personal
> attacks have been done by a small group of people including:
> 
>   http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2012-03/msg00370.html
>   http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2012-03/msg00365.html


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Re: repeated abuses of the XFS list

[Russell Cattelan]

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Well I'm afraid I'm going to respectfully disagree.
I don't have the full story of everything that happened
but none of the post you pointed out are totally off topic.
There seems to be some question about what you have said previously
about XFS,  which to me would seem on topic.

I have forwarded your email to Christoph and the other prominent members
of the XFS team and if they feel further action is warranted we
can revisit the issue. Based on what you have sent I do
not feel there is grounds for action.

-Russell


On 4/5/12 7:20 PM, Peter Grandi wrote:
>> You must be joking! I'm not about to ban one of the most
>> knowledgeable and productive xfs developers from the email
>> list.
> 
> Well, if one of these guys post offtopic and malicious rants, I
> guess that his being an XFS developer should not matter.
> 
> With being an XFS developer comes also some responsibility to
> maintain a technical and professional tone in the XFS mailing
> list, and not to abuse his position. Same for the others.
> 
>> I see nothing particularly offensive about these posts.
> 
> They personal attacks about competence and character. They are
> pure flames, and because they are coordinated they seem to be
> mobbing.
> 
> To me, you seem to be expliciting endorsing the use of the XFS
> mailing list to publish "ad hominem" attacks and mobbing.
> 
>> I can understand you may upset about what Christoph said but
>> he has every right to state his opinions on things no matter
>> how much you disagree.
> 
> But his opinions are on offtopic "things": the topic of the XFS
> mailing list is XFS, not people's competence or character, or
> rants/attacks on people.
> 
> Some of the links I have sent you contain no technical content,
> purely personal attacks. How can this be legitimate XFS content?
> 
> I think that it is your responsbility to ensure that posts are
> kept ontopic, and you assume responsibility for their content
> otherwise.


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Re: repeated abuses of the XFS list

[Russell Cattelan]

Sorry for what appears to be an off topic posts.

These emails were part of a non-xfs related conversation
that was forwarded to list by Peter Grandi.

While I did write these emails I did not sent them to the list.

If any additional emails on this topic show up they will not have come
directly from me.

-Russell


On 4/5/12 7:44 PM, Russell Cattelan wrote:
> Well I'm afraid I'm going to respectfully disagree.
> I don't have the full story of everything that happened
> but none of the post you pointed out are totally off topic.
> There seems to be some question about what you have said previously
> about XFS,  which to me would seem on topic.
> 
> I have forwarded your email to Christoph and the other prominent members
> of the XFS team and if they feel further action is warranted we
> can revisit the issue. Based on what you have sent I do
> not feel there is grounds for action.
> 
> -Russell
> 
> 
> On 4/5/12 7:20 PM, Peter Grandi wrote:
>>> You must be joking! I'm not about to ban one of the most
>>> knowledgeable and productive xfs developers from the email
>>> list.
>>
>> Well, if one of these guys post offtopic and malicious rants, I
>> guess that his being an XFS developer should not matter.
>>
>> With being an XFS developer comes also some responsibility to
>> maintain a technical and professional tone in the XFS mailing
>> list, and not to abuse his position. Same for the others.
>>
>>> I see nothing particularly offensive about these posts.
>>
>> They personal attacks about competence and character. They are
>> pure flames, and because they are coordinated they seem to be
>> mobbing.
>>
>> To me, you seem to be expliciting endorsing the use of the XFS
>> mailing list to publish "ad hominem" attacks and mobbing.
>>
>>> I can understand you may upset about what Christoph said but
>>> he has every right to state his opinions on things no matter
>>> how much you disagree.
>>
>> But his opinions are on offtopic "things": the topic of the XFS
>> mailing list is XFS, not people's competence or character, or
>> rants/attacks on people.
>>
>> Some of the links I have sent you contain no technical content,
>> purely personal attacks. How can this be legitimate XFS content?
>>
>> I think that it is your responsbility to ensure that posts are
>> kept ontopic, and you assume responsibility for their content
>> otherwise.
> 
> 
> 
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