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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] xfs: add 'discard_sync' mount flag
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:19:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cb68c8e-bf6c-b717-73f0-20e850582004@sandeen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180430182525.GE27875@wotan.suse.de>



On 4/30/18 1:25 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:07:31PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 4/30/18 11:19 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 09:32:52AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> XFS recently added support for async discards. While this can be
>>>> a win for some workloads and devices, there are also cases where
>>>> async bursty discard will severly harm the latencies of reads
>>>> and writes.
>>>>
>>>> Add a 'discard_sync' mount flag to revert to using sync discard,
>>>> issuing them one at the time and waiting for each one. This fixes
>>>> a big performance regression we had moving to kernels that include
>>>> the XFS async discard support.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
>>>> ---
>>>
>>> Hm, I figured the async discard stuff would have been a pretty clear win
>>> all around, but then again I'm not terribly familiar with what happens
>>> with discards beneath the fs. I do know that the previous behavior would
>>> cause fs level latencies due to holding up log I/O completion while
>>> discards completed one at a time. My understanding is that this lead to
>>> online discard being pretty much universally "not recommended" in favor
>>> of fstrim.
>>
>> It's not a secret that most devices suck at discard.
> 
> How can we know if a device sucks at discard?

I was going to ask the same thing.  ;)  "Meh, punt to the admin!"

I'm having deja vu but can't remember why.  Seems like this has come up
before and we thought it should be a block device tunable, not pushed down
from the filesystem.  Is that possible?

-Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-30 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-30 15:32 [PATCHSET 0/2] sync discard Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 15:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] block: add BLKDEV_DISCARD_SYNC flag Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 15:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] xfs: add 'discard_sync' mount flag Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 17:19   ` Brian Foster
2018-04-30 18:07     ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 18:25       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-30 18:31         ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 19:19         ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2018-04-30 19:21           ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 19:57             ` Eric Sandeen
2018-04-30 19:58               ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 22:59                 ` Eric Sandeen
2018-04-30 23:02                   ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 19:18       ` Brian Foster
2018-04-30 21:31   ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-30 21:42     ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 22:28       ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-30 22:40         ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 23:00           ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 23:23             ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-01 11:11               ` Brian Foster
2018-05-01 15:23               ` Jens Axboe
2018-05-02  2:54                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-05-02 14:20                   ` Jens Axboe
2018-04-30 23:01           ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-02 12:45 ` [PATCHSET 0/2] sync discard Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-02 14:19   ` Jens Axboe

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