From: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
martin.petersen@oracle.com, jack@suse.com
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT vs BLK_FEAT_STABLE_WRITES, was Re: [PATCH] btrfs: never trust the bio from direct IO
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 18:45:37 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f4c468a-ac87-4f54-bc5a-d35058e42dd2@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aPc6uLKJkavZ_SkM@infradead.org>
在 2025/10/21 18:18, Christoph Hellwig 写道:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 01:47:03PM +1030, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>> Off-topic a little, mind to share the performance drop with PI enabled on
>> XFS?
>
> If the bandwith of the SSDs get close or exceeds the DRAM bandwith
> buffered I/O can be 50% or less of the direct I/O performance.
In my case, the DRAM is way faster than the SSD (tens of GiB/s vs less
than 5GiB/s).
>
>> With this patch I'm able to enable direct IO for inodes with checksums.
>> I thought it would easily improve the performance, but the truth is, it's
>> not that different from buffered IO fall back.
>
> That's because you still copy data.
Enabling the extra copy for direct IO only drops around 15~20%
performance, but that's on no csum case.
So far the calculation matches your estimation, but...
>
>> So I start wondering if it's the checksum itself causing the miserable
>> performance numbers.
>
> Only indirectly by touching all the cachelines. But once you copy you
> touch them again. Especially if not done in small chunks.
As long as I enable checksum verification, even with the bouncing page
direct IO, the result is not any better than buffered IO fallback, all
around 10% (not by 10%, at 10%) of the direct IO speed (no matter
bouncing or not).
Maybe I need to check if the proper hardware accelerated CRC32 is
utilized...
Thanks,
Qu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-21 8:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-20 9:19 [PATCH] btrfs: never trust the bio from direct IO Qu Wenruo
2025-10-20 10:00 ` O_DIRECT vs BLK_FEAT_STABLE_WRITES, was " Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-20 10:24 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-20 11:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-20 11:16 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-20 11:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-20 13:59 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-20 14:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-10-20 15:58 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-20 17:55 ` John Hubbard
2025-10-21 8:27 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-21 16:56 ` John Hubbard
2025-10-20 19:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-21 7:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-21 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-21 9:33 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-21 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-21 9:22 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-21 9:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-21 9:52 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-21 3:17 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-21 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-21 8:15 ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2025-10-21 11:30 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-10-22 2:27 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-22 5:04 ` hch
2025-10-22 6:17 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-22 6:24 ` hch
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