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From: Mark Tinguely <tinguely@sgi.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: bpm@sgi.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] xfs: allocation worker causes freelist buffer lock hang
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:14:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50630DB6.4070405@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120925220110.GF29154@dastard>

On 09/25/12 17:01, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:14:16AM -0500, Mark Tinguely wrote:

<deletes>

>>>>
>>>> As a bonus, consolidating the loops into one worker actually gives a slight
>>>> performance advantage.
>>>
>>> Can you quantify it?
>>
>> I was comparing the bonnie and iozone benchmarks outputs. I will see
>> if someone can enlighten me on how to quantify those numbers.
>
> Ugh.
>
> Don't bother. Those are two of the worst offenders in the "useless
> benchmarks for regression testing" category. Yeah, they *look* like
> they give decent numbers, but I've wasted so much time looking at
> results from these benhmarks only to find they do basic things wrong
> and give numbers that vary simple because you've made a change that
> increases or decreases the CPU cache footprint of a code path.
>
> e.g. IOZone uses the same memory buffer as the source/destination of
> all it's IO, and does not touch the contents of it at all. Hence for
> small IO, the buffer stays resident in the CPU caches and gives
> unrealsitically high throughput results. Worse is the fact that CPU
> cache residency of the buffer can change according to the kernel
> code path taken, so you can get massive changes in throughput just
> by changing the layout of the code without changing any logic....
>
> IOZone can be useful if you know exactly what you are doing and
> using it to test a specific code path with a specific set of
> configurations. e.g. comparing ext3/4/xfs/btrfs on the same kernel
> and storage is fine. However, the moment you start using it to
> compare different kernels, it's a total crap shoot....

does anyone have a good benchmark XFS should use to share performance 
results? A number that we can agree a series does not degrade the 
filesystem..

lies, damn lies, statistics and then filesystem benchmarks?! :)


> I guess I don't understand what you mean by "loop on
> xfs_alloc_vextent()" then.
>
> The problem I see above is this:
>
> thread 1		worker 1		worker 2..max
> xfs_bmapi_write(userdata)

     loops here calling xfs_bmapi_alloc()

>    xfs_bmapi_allocate(user)
>      xfs_alloc_vextent(user)
>        wait
>
> 			_xfs_alloc_vextent()
> 			locks AGF

			 first loop it takes the lock
			 one of the next times through the above
			 loop it cannot get a worker. deadlock here.

			 I saved the xfs_bmalloca and fs_alloc_arg when
			 allocating a buffer to verify the paths.

> 						_xfs_alloc_vextent()
> 						blocks on AGF lock

> 			completes allocation
>
>        <returns with AGF locked in transaction>
>      xfs_bmap_add_extent_hole_real
>        xfs_bmap_extents_to_btree
>          xfs_alloc_vextent(user)
>            wait

	   this does not need a worker, and since in the same
            transaction all locks to the AGF buffer are recursive locks.
	   no wait here.
>
> <deadlock as no more workers available>

<deletes>

--Mark.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-26 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-19 16:31 [PATCH 0/3] xfs: allocation worker causes freelist buffer lock hang tinguely
2012-09-19 16:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] xfs: restrict allocate worker to x86_64 tinguely
2012-09-19 21:54   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-20 17:37     ` Mark Tinguely
2012-09-24 17:37       ` Ben Myers
2012-09-25  0:14         ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-19 16:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] xfs: move allocate worker tinguely
2012-09-19 16:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] xfs: zero allocation_args on the kernel stack tinguely
2012-09-19 23:41   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-20 18:16   ` [PATCH 3/3 v2] " Mark Tinguely
2012-09-25 20:20     ` Ben Myers
2012-10-18 22:52     ` Ben Myers
2012-09-19 23:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] xfs: allocation worker causes freelist buffer lock hang Dave Chinner
2012-09-20 13:49   ` Mark Tinguely
2012-09-24 13:25   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-24 17:11 ` Ben Myers
2012-09-24 18:09   ` Mark Tinguely
2012-09-25  0:56     ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-25 15:14       ` Mark Tinguely
2012-09-25 22:01         ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-26 14:14           ` Mark Tinguely [this message]
2012-09-26 23:41             ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27 20:10               ` Mark Tinguely
2012-09-28  3:08         ` Dave Chinner
2012-10-01 22:10           ` [PATCH 0/3] xfs: allocation worker causes freelist buffer lock Mark Tinguely
2012-10-01 23:10             ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27 22:48     ` [PATCH 0/3] xfs: allocation worker causes freelist buffer lock hang Ben Myers
2012-09-27 23:17       ` Mark Tinguely
2012-09-27 23:27         ` Mark Tinguely

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