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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Julien FERRERO <jferrero06@gmail.com>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: XFS filesystem corruption
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:47:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5137732B.3010703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcwv6wqv0b_CPqDpBfOwVDg23uBi=tpGQSy9XuH2uWS5oVMWQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/06/2013 11:16 AM, Julien FERRERO wrote:
> Hi Emmanuel
>
> 2013/3/6 Emmanuel Florac <eflorac@intellique.com>:
>> Le Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:08:59 +0100 vous écriviez:
>>
>>> I am totally stuck and I really don't know how to duplicate the
>>> corruption. I only know that units are used to be power cycle by
>>> operator while the fs is still mounted (no proper shutdown / reboot).
>>> My guess is the fs journal shall handle this case and avoid such
>>> corruption.
>> Wrong guess. It may work or not, depending upon a long list of
>> parameters, but basically not turning it off properly is asking for
>> problems and corruptions. The problem will be tragically aggravated if
>> your hardware RAID doesn't have a battery backed-up cache.
>>
> OK but our server is 95% of the time reading data and 5% of the time
> writing data. We have a case of a server that did not write anything
> at the time of failure (and during all the uptime session). Moreover,
> failure occurs to files that were opened in read-only or weren't
> accessed at all at the time of failure. I don't think the H/W RAID is
> the issue since we have the same corruption with other setup without
> H/W RAID.
>
> Does the "ls" output with "???" looks like a fs corruption ?
>

Caching can hold dirty data in volatile cache for a very long time. Even if you 
open a file in "read-only" mode, you still do a fair amount of writes to 
storage. You can use blktrace or similar tool to see just how much data is written.

As mentioned earlier, you always must unmount cleanly as a best practice. An 
operator that powers off with mounted file systems need educated or let go :)

Ric

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-06 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-06 15:08 XFS filesystem corruption Julien FERRERO
2013-03-06 15:15 ` Emmanuel Florac
2013-03-06 16:16   ` Julien FERRERO
2013-03-06 16:47     ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2013-03-06 22:21     ` Emmanuel Florac
2013-03-06 23:12       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-03-07 13:15         ` Julien FERRERO
2013-03-07 13:40           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-03-07 23:22           ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-08 10:16             ` Julien FERRERO
2013-03-12  9:57             ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-03-08  8:39         ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-08 10:17           ` Julien FERRERO
2013-03-08 12:20           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-03-08 18:59             ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-09  9:11               ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-09 18:51                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-10 22:45                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-10 23:54                     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-11  0:50                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-11  9:29                         ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-11 22:45                           ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-11  9:25                       ` Julien FERRERO
2013-03-12 10:54                         ` Emmanuel Florac
2013-03-12 10:42           ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-03-12 22:16             ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-07  3:56 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-07 13:04   ` Julien FERRERO
2013-03-07 13:32     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-10  2:50     ` Eric Sandeen
2013-03-10 22:11     ` Dave Chinner

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