From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from relay.sgi.com (relay1.corp.sgi.com [137.38.102.111]) by oss.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DD27F76 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 00:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cuda.sgi.com (cuda3.sgi.com [192.48.176.15]) by relay1.corp.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C0A8F8035 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from greer.hardwarefreak.com (mo-65-41-216-221.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.41.216.221]) by cuda.sgi.com with ESMTP id c6PI6QK8JrCVX9MT for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F4A77A.30502@hardwarefreak.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 00:09:14 -0500 From: Stan Hoeppner MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Purpose of the XFS list -- was: A short digression on FOSS (Re: understanding speculative preallocation) References: <31450470.2412.1374978094689.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com> In-Reply-To: <31450470.2412.1374978094689.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com> Reply-To: stan@hardwarefreak.com List-Id: XFS Filesystem from SGI List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: xfs-bounces@oss.sgi.com Sender: xfs-bounces@oss.sgi.com To: Jay Ashworth Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com On 7/27/2013 9:21 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: ... > From there, we veered *very* close to "we don't talk to people unless > they're paying Red Had customers"... Not even close. We don't typically talk to RHEL customers on this mailing list Jay. RHEL customers get their XFS support via Red Hat Customer Support. Let's cut through all the BS, educate you, and end this OT thread. Pay attention. The XFS mailing list exists for _mainline Linux_ XFS development, discussion, collaboration, and user support. The list is hosted by SGI, as well as the primary list archive, the master branch repo, etc. Red Hat now employs, has for some years, most/all of the core XFS developers, many of whom previously worked for SGI. Their participation on the XFS list is the same as the purpose of the XFS list itself, as stated above. The work they do for the RHEL kernel isn't discussed here and the RHEL kernel isn't generally supported here because it is not a mainline kernel, and because those users should be assisted by Red Hat Support--after all they pay for that. CentOS is a direct clone of RHEL. It uses the RHEL kernel. Thus XFS in the CentOS kernel is not generally supported on this mailing list. CentOS (and RHEL) userland XFS tools yes, kernel no. If there were some other custom distro kernel out there that was non mainline, it wouldn't get support here either. The reason "we" (and I'm not a Red Hat employee, nor a RHEL user) suggest to CentOS users that they become paying RHEL customers is obvious: they already use the software and are familiar and presumably comfortable with it and prefer it. If they pay they get Red Hat support for XFS in the kernel, along with anything else kernel related. If they want to continue to use a "no cost" OS and get support on this mailing list, they must have a distro with a mainline kernel. So the other obvious option is move to a distro that uses a mainline kernel. They may also be able to install a mainline kernel on CentOS, as someone suggested previously. Nobody here is aiming guns at CentOS users heads. They have plenty of support options. It just so happens that using the stock CentOS (RHEL) kernel isn't one of them. -- Stan _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@oss.sgi.com http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs