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From: Mark Tinguely <tinguely@sgi.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 51/50] xfs: add xfs sb v4 support for dirent filetype field
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:29:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52137D3D.8060205@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5212AA1D.3000809@sandeen.net>

On 08/19/13 18:28, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 8/19/13 3:19 PM, Mark Tinguely wrote:
>
> <an attachment that doesn't show up on reply, moving d_type support to v4 superblocks ;)>
>
> Thanks, Mark!
>
> Has you been able to test this at all?

There is no test for this feature. Yes I did my version of testing. 
First adding each type of inode type and verifying it. Then fsstress 
testing using the same seed for sb v4+feature, v4 plain, v5+feature. The 
resulting directory and checked with xfs_db. fsstress was chosen because 
how it manipulate directory items.

>
> I do still owe a promised xfstest - but for that, we'll need at least mkfs
> &  xfs_repair support.
>

Dave made changes so that xfs_repair will run (find the correct 
directory items) but the feature verification and repairs has not been 
done, so technically this is an incomplete feature.

> Did you patch up mkfs to do basic tests of your kernelspace patch?

yes. to the directory area in mkfs per suggestion.

The tests run the same on the v5 and v4 - ummm, it is the same directory 
code. see above.

>
> Talking to Dave, he reminds me of a few things this needs, if it's
> going to be complete&  compatible on V4:
>
> * mkfs.xfs commandline option support&  manpage updates

yes

> * xfs_db support (including version friendly-text output)

yes, xfsprogs v4/v5 uses the same directory code, Dave's patches support 
xfs_db. It works for v4/v5.


> * XFS_IOC_FSGEOM support so that xfs_info can report the difference
> * xfs_repair needs to know that it's a valid feature on V4

okay, it will run xfs_repair to the same level as v5. AND ...As pointed 
out, there is no xfs_repair support to verify/correct the feature in v5 
and therefore v4 - (again it is the same directory code). As is, this 
feature is incomplete. That could keep the kernel portion from moving 
forward.

> Some of that may overlap w/ things still needed on V5, but some is unique
> to allowing it on V4.
>
> Mark, do you plan to do some of those unique-to-V4 parts, too?

Yes.

>
> As an aside: I would support getting this feature onto V4 superblocks,
> after we have confidence that all the bits are done, tested, and robust.
>
> I still would really like to see it go forward in parallel on V5, and
> not be blocked by the extra work needed for proper V4 integration.
>

understood - now documented.  Hi Linus.

This feature uses shared directory code. It has to be turned on using a 
mkfs to be used. No one will accidentally get this feature.

The feature and implementation are good. The directory code is common - 
the feature added changes to that directory code. If the implementation 
is bad it will trash the v4/v5 directories the same - no matter if the 
feature is turned on or off. If you are so afraid of the common code may 
break any directories, then this feature should be held back for more 
testing.

All that I insist is this nice feature be added to the mainstream 
filesystem at the same time as the experimental filesystem. There is NO 
TECHNICAL reason that this feature is not supported mainstream filesystem.

I repeat, if you have technical concerns for the feature's 
implementation and its impact on v4 filesystems because it uses common 
directory code, then it should be held back for more testing.

> Thanks,
> -Eric

--Mark.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-20 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-12 10:49 ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 00/50] xfs: patches for 3.12 Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 01/50] xfs: separate out log format definitions Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 02/50] xfs: split out inode log item format definition Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 03/50] xfs: split out buf log item format definitions Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 04/50] xfs: split out EFI/EFD log item format definition Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 05/50] xfs: separate dquot on disk format definitions out of xfs_quota.h Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 06/50] xfs: separate icreate log format definitions from xfs_icreate_item.h Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 07/50] xfs: split out on-disk transaction definitions Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 08/50] xfs: introduce xfs_rtalloc_defs.h Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 09/50] xfs: introduce xfs_quota_defs.h Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 10/50] xfs: sync minor header differences needed by userspace Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 11/50] xfs: split out transaction reservation code Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 12/50] xfs: move inode fork definitions to a new header file Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 13/50] xfs: move unrelated definitions out of xfs_inode.h Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 14/50] xfs: introduce xfs_inode_buf.c for inode buffer operations Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 15/50] xfs: move getdents code into it's own file Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 16/50] xfs: reshuffle dir2 definitions around for userspace Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 17/50] xfs: split out attribute listing code into separate file Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 18/50] xfs: split out attribute fork truncation " Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 19/50] xfs: split out the remote symlink handling Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 20/50] xfs: introduce xfs_sb.c for sharing with libxfs Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 21/50] xfs: create xfs_bmap_util.[ch] Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 22/50] xfs: minor cleanups Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 23/50] xfs: fix issues that cause userspace warnings Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 24/50] xfs: kill xfs_vnodeops.[ch] Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 25/50] xfs: consolidate xfs_rename.c Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 26/50] xfs: consolidate xfs_utils.c Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 27/50] xfs: consolidate extent swap code Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 28/50] xfs: don't special case shared superblock mounts Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 29/50] xfs: kill __KERNEL__ check for debug code in allocation code Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 30/50] xfs: remove __KERNEL__ from debug code Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 31/50] xfs: remove __KERNEL__ check from xfs_dir2_leaf.c Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 32/50] xfs: xfs_filestreams.h doesn't need __KERNEL__ Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 33/50] xfs: move kernel specific type definitions to xfs.h Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 34/50] xfs: make struct xfs_perag kernel only Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 35/50] xfs: Introduce a new structure to hold transaction reservation items Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 36/50] xfs: Introduce tr_fsyncts to m_reservation Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 37/50] xfs: Make writeid transaction use tr_writeid Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:49 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 38/50] xfs: refactor xfs_trans_reserve() interface Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 39/50] xfs: Get rid of all XFS_XXX_LOG_RES() macro Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 40/50] xfs: Refactor xfs_ticket_alloc() to extract a new helper Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 41/50] xfs: Add xfs_log_rlimit.c Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 42/50] xfs: Validate log space at mount time Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 18:46   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 43/50] xfs: return log item size in IOP_SIZE Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 44/50] xfs: Reduce allocations during CIL insertion Dave Chinner
2013-08-13 13:28   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 45/50] xfs: avoid CIL allocation during insert Dave Chinner
2013-08-13 13:37   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 46/50] xfs: Combine CIL insert and prepare passes Dave Chinner
2013-08-13 14:02   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 47/50] xfs: split the CIL lock Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 48/50] xfs: Add read-only support for dirent filetype field Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 49/50] xfs: Add write " Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 10:50 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 50/50] xfs: use reference counts to free clean buffer items Dave Chinner
2013-08-13 15:03   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-13 21:46     ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-13 22:00       ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-14  3:57         ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-14  4:12           ` Zhi Yong Wu
2013-08-14  6:41             ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-14 13:26           ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-14 17:49             ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-15  0:48               ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-15 21:43   ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** " Ben Myers
2013-08-12 22:55 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 00/50] xfs: patches for 3.12 Ben Myers
2013-08-13 21:28   ` Ben Myers
2013-08-19 20:19 ` [PATCH 51/50] xfs: add xfs sb v4 support for dirent filetype field Mark Tinguely
2013-08-19 23:28   ` Eric Sandeen
2013-08-20 14:29     ` Mark Tinguely [this message]
2013-08-20 14:45       ` Eric Sandeen
2013-08-20 18:50         ` Ben Myers
2013-08-20 21:00           ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-20 21:05             ` Ben Myers
2013-08-20 23:19       ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-21  0:06       ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-21 17:03         ` Ben Myers
2013-08-22  2:02           ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-22 16:14             ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-22 18:19               ` Ben Myers
2013-08-25  5:18                 ` Michael L. Semon
2013-08-25 23:21                   ` Michael L. Semon
2013-08-26 15:40                   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-19 23:40   ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-20 19:57   ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-22 15:59 ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** [PATCH 00/50] xfs: patches for 3.12 Ben Myers

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