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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, hch@infradead.org, john.stultz@linaro.org,
	lftan@altera.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	joseph@codesourcery.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 11/32] xfs: convert to struct inode_time
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 17:41:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5389252A.5050503@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140531003712.GH14410@dastard>

On 05/30/2014 05:37 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> 
> IOWs, the filesystem has to be able to reject any attempt to set a
> timestamp that is can't represent on disk otherwise Bad Stuff will
> happen,

Actually it is questionable if it is worse to reject a timestamp or just
let it wrap.  Rejecting a valid timestamp is a bit like "You don't
exist, go away."

> and filesystems have to be able to specify in their on
> disk format what timestamp encoding is being used. The solution will
> be different for every filesystem that needs to support time beyond
> 2038.

Actually the cutoff can be really different for each filesystem, not
necessarily 2038.  However, I maintain the above still holds.

Consider a filesystem that kept timestamps in YYMMDDHHMMSS format.  What
would you have expected such a filesystem to do on Jan 1, 2000?

	-hpa


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-31  0:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-30 20:01 [RFC 00/32] making inode time stamps y2038 ready Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-30 20:01 ` [RFC 11/32] xfs: convert to struct inode_time Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31  0:37   ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-31  0:41     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-05-31  1:14       ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-31  1:22         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-31  5:54           ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-31  8:41             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-31 15:46               ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-01 19:56                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-01 20:26                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 11:02                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02  1:36                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-02  2:22                     ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02  7:09                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-06-02 10:56                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 11:57                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 12:38                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 13:15                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 12:52                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 13:07                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 15:01                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 14:52                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 15:04                       ` Chuck Lever
2014-06-02 15:31                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 17:12                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 18:50                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 22:29                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 22:32                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 23:32                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 23:33                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-03 13:09                                   ` Roger Willcocks
2014-06-02 18:52                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 18:58                         ` Roger Willcocks
2014-06-02 19:04                           ` Chuck Lever
2014-06-02 19:10                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-01  0:39               ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02 14:00             ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-31 15:37         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-01  0:24           ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02  0:28             ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02 11:35               ` Roger Willcocks
2014-06-02 11:43               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03  0:32                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-03  7:33                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03  8:41                     ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-03  9:16                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 14:30 ` [RFC 00/32] making inode time stamps y2038 ready Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-06-03 12:21   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 14:51 ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]   ` <6347520.8jMPlVsFjM@wuerfel>
2014-05-31 16:20     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-31 18:22     ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-31 19:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-01  4:46         ` Richard Cochran
2014-06-01  4:44     ` Richard Cochran
2014-06-02 13:52 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-02 19:19   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 19:26     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 19:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 21:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-03 14:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 14:33             ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-03 14:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 21:38             ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-04 15:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-04 17:30                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-04 19:24                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-05  0:10                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10  9:54                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 21:02     ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-04 15:05       ` Arnd Bergmann

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