From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, LKML Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
geert@linux-m68k.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
john.stultz@linaro.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
lftan@altera.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
Roger Willcocks <roger@filmlight.ltd.uk>,
joseph@codesourcery.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 11/32] xfs: convert to struct inode_time
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:10:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5585593.Xe5bNQZW47@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C57EA6CA-236A-4C93-95F8-21F46A3622DA@oracle.com>
On Monday 02 June 2014 15:04:27 Chuck Lever wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Roger Willcocks <roger@filmlight.ltd.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 11:04 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >
> >> NFSv2/3 timestamps are a pair of unsigned 32-bit values: one value for
> >> seconds since midnight GMT Jan 1, 1970, and one value for nanoseconds.
> >> (See the definition of nfstime3 in RFC 1813).
> >>
> >
> > nfstime3 could be extended by redefining the otherwise unused
> > nanoseconds bits{31,30} as seconds{33,32}, to give a (signed) 34-bit
> > seconds field and an unsigned 30-bit nanoseconds field.
> >
> > This could represent 1970 +/- 272 years.
> >
> > Servers could indicate they can understand the extended time format by
> > adding a new FSINFO capability - FSF3_CANSETTIME_EX.
> >
> > Clients would use a new SET_TO_CLIENT_TIME_EX time_how enum when sending
> > timestamps so old servers would be protected from new clients.
>
> You would have to get the IETF’s NFSv4 working group to sign off on
> this change. Otherwise, Linux would be the only NFSv3 implementation
> that supports the extension.
>
> But I suspect the answer you’d get is “Use NFSv4.”
While I've never dealt with an NFS standardization, I'd assume this is
a workable answer. The NFSv2 and NFSv3 definition clearly defines a valid
range of times until 2106 using unsigned seconds, and that should really
give enough time to migrate to something better (not necessarily NFSv4).
Arnd
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-30 20:01 [RFC 00/32] making inode time stamps y2038 ready Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-30 20:01 ` [RFC 11/32] xfs: convert to struct inode_time Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 0:37 ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-31 0:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-31 1:14 ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-31 1:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-31 5:54 ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-31 8:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-31 15:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-01 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-01 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 11:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 1:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-02 2:22 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02 7:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-06-02 10:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 11:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 12:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 13:15 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 12:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 13:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 15:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 14:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 15:04 ` Chuck Lever
2014-06-02 15:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 17:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 18:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 22:29 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 22:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 23:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-02 23:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-03 13:09 ` Roger Willcocks
2014-06-02 18:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 18:58 ` Roger Willcocks
2014-06-02 19:04 ` Chuck Lever
2014-06-02 19:10 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-06-01 0:39 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02 14:00 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-31 15:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-01 0:24 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02 0:28 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-02 11:35 ` Roger Willcocks
2014-06-02 11:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 0:32 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-03 7:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 8:41 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-03 9:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 14:30 ` [RFC 00/32] making inode time stamps y2038 ready Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-06-03 12:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 14:51 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <6347520.8jMPlVsFjM@wuerfel>
2014-05-31 16:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-31 18:22 ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-31 19:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-01 4:46 ` Richard Cochran
2014-06-01 4:44 ` Richard Cochran
2014-06-02 13:52 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-02 19:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 19:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 21:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-03 14:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 14:33 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-03 14:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 21:38 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-04 15:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-04 17:30 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-04 19:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-05 0:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 9:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 21:02 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-04 15:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
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