From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hpe.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hpe.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu_counter: return precise count from __percpu_counter_compare()
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:01:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5616934C.5000206@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151007230441.GG32150@dastard>
On 10/07/2015 07:04 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 04:00:42PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 10/06/2015 05:30 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>>>> /*
>>>>> * Aggregate the per-cpu counter magazines back into the global
>>>>> * counter. This avoids the need for repeated compare operations to
>>>>> * run the slow path when the majority of the counter value is held
>>>>> * in the per-cpu magazines. Folding them back into the global
>>>>> * counter means we will continue to hit the fast
>>>>> * percpu_counter_read() path until the counter value falls
>>>>> * completely within the comparison limit passed to
>>>>> * __percpu_counter_compare().
>>>>> */
>>>>> static s64 percpu_counter_aggregate(struct percpu_counter *fbc)
>>>>> {
>>>>> s64 ret;
>>>>> int cpu;
>>>>> unsigned long flags;
>>>>>
>>>>> raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&fbc->lock, flags);
>>>>> ret = fbc->count;
>>>>> for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
>>>>> s32 count = __this_cpu_read(*fbc->counters);
>>>>> ret += count;
>>>>> __this_cpu_sub(*fbc->counters, count)
>>>>> }
>>>>> fbc->count = ret;
>>>>> raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&fbc->lock, flags);
>>>>> return ret;
>>>>> }
>>>> I don't think that will work as some other CPUs may change the
>>>> percpu counters values between percpu_counter_aggregate() and
>>>> __percpu_counter_compare(). To be safe, the precise counter has to
>>>> be compted whenever the comparison value difference is less than
>>>> nr_cpus * batch size.
>>> Well, yes. Why do you think the above function does the same
>>> function as percpu_counter_sum()? So that the percpu_counter_sum()
>>> call *inside* __percpu_counter_compare() can be replaced by this
>>> call. i.e.
>>>
>>> return -1;
>>> }
>>> /* Need to use precise count */
>>> - count = percpu_counter_sum(fbc);
>>> + count = percpu_counter_aggregate(fbc);
>>> if (count> rhs)
>>> return 1;
>>> else if (count< rhs)
>>>
>>> Please think about what I'm saying rather than dismissing it without
>>> first understanding my suggestions.
>> I understood what you were saying. However, the per-cpu counter
>> isn't protected by the spinlock. Reading it is OK, but writing may
>> cause race if that counter is modified by a CPU other than its
>> owning CPU.
> <sigh>
>
> You're still trying to pick apart the code without considering what
> we need to acheive. We don't need to the code to be bullet proof to
> test whether this hypothesis is correct or not - we just need
> something that is "near-enough" to give us the data point to tell us
> where we should focus our efforts. If optimising the counter like
> above does not reduce the overhead, then we may have to change XFS.
> If it does reduce the overhead, then the XFS code remains unchanged
> and we focus on optimising the counter code.
What determine if a precise sum is to be computed is the following code:
if (abs(count - rhs) > (batch * num_online_cpus())) {
So even if we make the global count more accurate using
percpu_counter_aggregate(), it won't have too much effect in reducing
the chance where the precise count needs to be calculated. That is why I
don't bother testing it with the modified code.
Cheers,
Longman
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-08 16:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-02 17:29 [PATCH] percpu_counter: return precise count from __percpu_counter_compare() Waiman Long
2015-10-02 18:04 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-05 23:03 ` Waiman Long
2015-10-02 18:05 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-02 18:12 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-02 18:15 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-02 22:16 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-05 23:02 ` Waiman Long
2015-10-06 0:25 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-06 17:33 ` Waiman Long
2015-10-06 21:30 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-07 20:00 ` Waiman Long
2015-10-07 23:04 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-07 23:20 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-08 1:02 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-08 1:09 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-08 16:06 ` Waiman Long
2015-10-08 16:01 ` Waiman Long [this message]
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