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From: Ferenc Wagner <wferi@niif.hu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>, Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: mmap vs mtime in 2.6.26 and up
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:47:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vdj742dt.fsf@tac.ki.iif.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Ferenc Wagner's message of "Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:01:54 +0200"

Ferenc Wagner <wferi@niif.hu> writes:

> Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> writes:
>
>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:50:54PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:40:29PM +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the analysis.  Unfortunately I don't nearly know enough to
>>>> work on this issue, but would like to track it as it affects our
>>>> backup system.  So, shouldn't #2645 be reopened again?
>>> 
>>> Yes, definitively as the current "fix" is incorrected.  I'll try to cook
>>> up a correct version once I get some time.
>>
>> Doing this correctly in the framework of the current codee is
>> unfortunately not so easy, as calling ->setattr requires taking i_mutex
>> which we can't in the pagefaul path.
>>
>> To fix this properly we need to actually update the timestamps during
>> msync and co as done by the patches from Miklos:
>> 	http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/28/166
>> and Peter:
>> 	http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/5/31/176
>
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2645#c53 shows that Anton
> doesn't quite agree with you on this.  I really can't tell, would you
> (or anybody from the accused XFS community) please comment?  Or did
> you perhaps fix it meanwhile?  I can't easily test newer kernels, but
> I will if there's some chance.

I added some fresh test results to
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2645.  In short, under
2.6.30-rc8 the test program reports full failure on XFS and RAMFS,
full success on EXT3, VFAT and ReiserFS, and mixed results on TMPFS:

$ ./mmap /dev/shm/testfile 
Modifying /dev/shm/testfile...
Flushing data using sync()...
Failure: time not changed.
Not modifying /dev/shm/testfile...
Flushing data using msync()...
Success: time not changed.
Not modifying /dev/shm/testfile...
Flushing data using fsync()...
Success: time not changed.
Modifying /dev/shm/testfile...
Flushing data using msync()...
Failure: time not changed.
Modifying /dev/shm/testfile...
Flushing data using fsync()...
Failure: time not changed.

This doesn't look like az XFS-specific issue, but XFS is definitely
affected.  Anybody's got an idea how to tackle this?
-- 
Regards,
Feri.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-25 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <874ovws94s.fsf@tac.ki.iif.hu>
     [not found] ` <87ljp2v6vt.fsf@tac.ki.iif.hu>
2009-05-12 15:37   ` mmap vs mtime in 2.6.26 and up Ray Lee
2009-05-12 15:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-15 16:40       ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-05-15 16:50         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-18 11:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-22 17:52             ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-09-25 12:47             ` Ferenc Wagner [this message]
2009-09-26 13:10               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-15  0:08                 ` Ferenc Wagner

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