From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] xfs: completely disable toggling DAX flag via ioctl on reg files
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 06:23:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <892f27ac-f985-bf8f-1cc9-bc0a996136f7@sandeen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180726120854.GA16980@bfoster>
On 7/26/18 5:08 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 02:20:54PM -0700, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> 742d842 xfs: disable per-inode DAX flag was, I think, intended
>> as a short-term workaround to avoid races when toggling DAX on
>> and off of active inodes until mm/ sorted that out.
>>
>> (It's also a confusing title, as it didn't really disable
>> per-inode DAX at all.)
>>
>> However, it has the surprising (to me, at least) result that while
>> the ioctl succeeds, no behavior changes until the inode is cycled
>> out of cache and re-read from disk at some unknown later time.
>> This seems to badly violate the principle of least surprise.
>>
>> Until said races are properly resolved, it seems most prudent to
>> disallow modification of the flag on regular files altogether.
>> We can still allow per-inode DAX flagging via directory inheritance.
>>
>> Since DAX is still flagged as experimental (in part due to these
>> concerns) I don't think it's a problem to (temporarily?) break
>> this interface further.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
>> ---
>
> I'm not in tune with the latest state of dax, but if the situation is
> that we don't currently have a means to correctly switch the per-inode
> state for an active inode (and thus have simply skipped changing the
> online flag while carrying on with the on-disk flag, leading to this
> inode cache cycling requirement), then I think this makes sense. The
> current interface is essentially incomplete, I don't see any reason to
> allow unless/until it actually works sanely.
>
> BTW, what bits are actually missing to make that happen? Why is the
> flush/inval currently in this function not sufficient?
TBH I don't actually know the low-level details. :/
> Implementation wise, I'm a little curious why we're piling on hacks
> (such as the return short-circuit and the previous #if 0) as opposed to
> just removing the code. The code can always be restored directly from
> the git history, right?
Well, fair point. If this goes in it should probably at least remove
the other #if 0 so it's not stacking hacks on hacks, but if the issue
is in mm/ it might be a big ask for anyone eventually working on that
to dig supporting code back out of xfs git history ...
-Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-26 14:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-25 21:20 [PATCH, RFC] xfs: completely disable toggling DAX flag via ioctl on reg files Eric Sandeen
2018-07-26 12:08 ` Brian Foster
2018-07-26 13:23 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2018-07-26 14:15 ` Brian Foster
2018-07-26 23:17 ` Dave Chinner
2018-07-27 1:20 ` Eric Sandeen
2018-07-27 18:51 ` Brian Foster
2018-07-30 16:09 ` Darrick J. Wong
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