From: Wengang Wang <wen.gang.wang@oracle.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] xfs file non-exclusive online defragment
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:07:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <97269730-511F-438B-9840-59CAF7997FC2@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXvEtvRm1rkT03Sb@dread.disaster.area>
> On Dec 14, 2023, at 7:15 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 01:35:02PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 09:05:21AM -0800, Wengang Wang wrote:
>>> Background:
>>> We have the existing xfs_fsr tool which do defragment for files. It has the
>>> following features:
>>> 1. Defragment is implemented by file copying.
>>> 2. The copy (to a temporary file) is exclusive. The source file is locked
>>> during the copy (to a temporary file) and all IO requests are blocked
>>> before the copy is done.
>>> 3. The copy could take long time for huge files with IO blocked.
>>> 4. The copy requires as many free blocks as the source file has.
>>> If the source is huge, say it’s 1TiB, it’s hard to require the file
>>> system to have another 1TiB free.
>>>
>>> The use case in concern is that the XFS files are used as images files for
>>> Virtual Machines.
>>> 1. The image files are huge, they can reach hundreds of GiB and even to TiB.
>>> 2. Backups are made via reflink copies, and CoW makes the files badly fragmented.
>>> 3. fragmentation make reflink copies super slow.
>>> 4. during the reflink copy, all IO requests to the file are blocked for super
>>> long time. That makes timeout in VM and the timeout lead to disaster.
>>>
>>> This feature aims to:
>>> 1. reduce the file fragmentation making future reflink (much) faster and
>>> 2. at the same time, defragmentation works in non-exclusive manner, it doesn’t
>>> block file IOs long.
>>>
>>> Non-exclusive defragment
>>> Here we are introducing the non-exclusive manner to defragment a file,
>>> especially for huge files, without blocking IO to it long. Non-exclusive
>>> defragmentation divides the whole file into small pieces. For each piece,
>>> we lock the file, defragment the piece and unlock the file. Defragmenting
>>> the small piece doesn’t take long. File IO requests can get served between
>>> pieces before blocked long. Also we put (user adjustable) idle time between
>>> defragmenting two consecutive pieces to balance the defragmentation and file IOs.
>>> So though the defragmentation could take longer than xfs_fsr, it balances
>>> defragmentation and file IOs.
>>
>> I'm kinda surprised you don't just turn on alwayscow mode, use an
>> iomap_funshare-like function to read in and dirty pagecache (which will
>> hopefully create a new large cow fork mapping) and then flush it all
>> back out with writeback. Then you don't need all this state tracking,
>> kthreads management, and copying file data through the buffer cache.
>> Wouldn't that be a lot simpler?
>
> Hmmm. I don't think it needs any kernel code to be written at all.
> I think we can do atomic section-by-section, crash-safe active file
> defrag from userspace like this:
>
> scratch_fd = open(O_TMPFILE);
> defrag_fd = open("file-to-be-dfragged");
>
> while (offset < target_size) {
>
> /*
> * share a range of the file to be defragged into
> * the scratch file.
> */
> args.src_fd = defrag_fd;
> args.src_offset = offset;
> args.src_len = length;
> args.dst_offset = offset;
> ioctl(scratch_fd, FICLONERANGE, args);
>
> /*
> * For the shared range to be unshared via a
> * copy-on-write operation in the file to be
> * defragged. This causes the file needing to be
> * defragged to have new extents allocated and the
> * data to be copied over and written out.
> */
> fallocate(defrag_fd, FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_RANGE, offset, length);
> fdatasync(defrag_fd);
>
> /*
> * Punch out the original extents we shared to the
> * scratch file so they are returned to free space.
> */
> fallocate(scratch_fd, FALLOC_FL_PUNCH, offset, length);
>
> /* move onto next region */
> offset += length;
> };
>
> As long as the length is large enough for the unshare to create a
> large contiguous delalloc region for the COW, I think this would
> likely acheive the desired "non-exclusive" defrag requirement.
>
> If we were to implement this as, say, and xfs_spaceman operation
> then all the user controlled policy bits (like inter chunk delays,
> chunk sizes, etc) then just becomes command line parameters for the
> defrag command...
Ha, the idea from user space is very interesting!
So far I have the following thoughts:
1). If the FICLONERANGE/FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_RANGE/FALLOC_FL_PUNCH works on a FS without reflink
enabled.
2). What if there is a big hole in the file to be defragmented? Will it cause block allocation and writing blocks with
zeroes.
3). In case a big range of the file is good (not much fragmented), the ‘defrag’ on that range is not necessary.
4). The use space defrag can’t use a try-lock mode to make IO requests have priorities. I am not sure if this is very important.
Maybe we can work with xfs_bmap to get extents info and skip good extents and holes to help case 2) and 3).
I will figure above out.
Again, the idea is so amazing, I didn’t reallize it.
Thanks,
Wengang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-15 17:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-14 17:05 [PATCH 0/9] xfs file non-exclusive online defragment Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 1/9] xfs: defrag: introduce strucutures and numbers Wengang Wang
2023-12-15 5:35 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 2/9] xfs: defrag: initialization and cleanup Wengang Wang
2023-12-15 14:09 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 3/9] xfs: defrag implement stop/suspend/resume/status Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 4/9] xfs: defrag: allocate/cleanup defragmentation Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 5/9] xfs: defrag: process some cases in xfs_defrag_process Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 6/9] xfs: defrag: piece picking up Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 7/9] xfs: defrag: guarantee contigurous blocks in cow fork Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 8/9] xfs: defrag: copy data from old blocks to new blocks Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 17:05 ` [PATCH 9/9] xfs: defrag: map " Wengang Wang
2023-12-14 21:35 ` [PATCH 0/9] xfs file non-exclusive online defragment Darrick J. Wong
2023-12-15 3:15 ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-15 17:07 ` Wengang Wang [this message]
2023-12-15 17:30 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-12-15 20:03 ` Wengang Wang
2023-12-15 20:20 ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-18 16:27 ` Wengang Wang
2023-12-19 21:17 ` Wengang Wang
2023-12-19 21:29 ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-19 22:23 ` Wengang Wang
2023-12-15 4:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-15 16:48 ` Wengang Wang
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