From: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, g.danti@assyoma.it
Subject: Re: XFS reflink vs ThinLVM
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:45:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ca7a7f18ef7fe2e7c32ea6a6cd4ef35@assyoma.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200118230631.GX8247@magnolia>
Il 19-01-2020 00:06 Darrick J. Wong ha scritto:
> 4GB / 1M extents == 4096, which is probably the fs blocksize :)
Yes, it did the same observation: due to random allocation, the
underlying vdisk had block-sized extents.
> I wonder, do you get different results if you set an extent size hint
> on the dir before running fio?
Yes: setting extsize at 128K strongly reduces the amount of allocated
extents (eg: 4M / 128K = 32K extents). A similar results can be obtained
tapping in cowextsize, by cp --reflink the original file. Any subsequent
4K write inside the guest will cause a 128K CoW allocation (with default
setting) on the backing file.
However, while *much* better, it is my understanding that XFS reflink is
a variable-length process: as any extents had to be scanned/reflinked,
the reflink time is not constant. Meanwhile it is impossible to
read/write from the reflinked file. Am I right?
On the other side thinlvm snapshots, operating on block level, are a
(more-or-less) constant-time operation, causing much less disruption in
the normal IO flow of the guest volumes.
I don't absolutely want to lessen reflink usefulnes; rather, it is an
extremely useful feature which can be put to very good use.
> I forgot(?) to mention that if you're mostly dealing with sparse VM
> images then you might as well set a extent size hint and forego delayed
> allocation because it won't help you much.
This was my conclusion as well.
Thanks.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-19 8:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-13 10:22 XFS reflink vs ThinLVM Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 11:10 ` Carlos Maiolino
2020-01-13 11:25 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 11:43 ` Carlos Maiolino
2020-01-13 12:21 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 15:34 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 16:53 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-13 17:00 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-13 18:09 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-14 8:45 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-15 11:37 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-15 16:39 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-15 17:45 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-17 21:58 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-17 23:42 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-18 11:08 ` Gionatan Danti
2020-01-18 23:06 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-19 8:45 ` Gionatan Danti [this message]
2020-01-13 16:14 ` Chris Murphy
2020-01-13 16:25 ` Gionatan Danti
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