From: 张本龙 <zbl.lkml@gmail.com>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] xfs: implement cgroup writeback support
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:37:32 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJDdQW3Gv=1fouW=j+xTPufWRb4QK50a6VmvPeJOoAwykTW7Ag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180327113648.GA3498@bfoster.bfoster>
2018-03-27 19:36 GMT+08:00 Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 05:55:26PM -0700, Shaohua Li wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:28:31PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 08:59:04AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:24:03PM +0800, 张本龙 wrote:
>> > > > Hi Shaohua and XFS,
>> > > >
>> > > > May I ask how are we gonna handle REQ_META issued from XFS? As you
>> > > > mentioned about charging to root cgroup (also in an earlier email
>> > > > discussion), and seems the 4.16.0-rc6 code is not handling it
>> > > > separately.
>> > > >
>> > > > In our case to support XFS cgroup writeback control, which was ported
>> > > > and slightly adapted to 3.10.0, ignoring xfs log bios resulted in
>> > > > trouble. Threads from throttled docker might submit_bio in following
>> > > > path by its own identity, this docker blkcg accumulated large amounts
>> > > > of data (e.g., 20GB), thus such log gets blocked.
>> > >
>> > > And thus displaying the reason why I originally refused to merge
>> > > this code until regression tests were added to fstests to exercise
>> > > these sorts of issues. This stuff adds new internal filesystem IO
>> > > ordering constraints, so we need tests that exercise it and ensure
>> > > we don't accidentally break it in future.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Hmm, but if the user issues fsync from the throttled cgroup then won't
>> > that throttling occur today, regardless of cgroup aware writeback? My
>> > understanding is that cgawb just accurately accounts writeback I/Os to
>> > the owner of the cached pages. IOW, if the buffered writer and fsync
>> > call are in the same throttled cgroup, then the throttling works just as
>> > it would with cgawb and the writer being in a throttled cgroup.
>> >
>> > So ISTM that this is an independent problem. What am I missing?
>> >
>> > Shaohua,
>> >
>> > Do you have a reference to the older metadata related patch mentioned in
>> > the commit log that presumably addressed this?
>>
>> The problem is about priority reversion. Say you do a fsync in a low prio
>> cgroup, the IO will be submitted with low prio. Now you do a fsync in a high
>> prio cgroup, the cgroup will wait for fsync IO finished, which is already
>> submitted by the low prio cgroup and run in low prio. This makes the high prio
>> cgroup run slow. The proposed patch is to force all metadata write submitted
>> from root cgroup regardless which task submitted, which can fix this issue.
>>
>
> Right, but it seems to me that this can happen with or without cgroup
> aware writeback. This patch just introduces the final bits required to
> carry the page owner from however it is tracked in the writeback machine
> to the bio submitted by the fs. It doesn't introduce/enable/implement
> I/O throttling itself, which is already in place and usable (outside of
> the buffered write page owner problem fixed by this patch), right?
>
> So without this patch, if a task in throttled cgroup A does a bunch of
> buffered writes and calls fsync, then another task in unthrottled cgroup
> B calls fsync, aren't we (XFS) susceptible to priority inversion via
> these same log I/O serialization points? If not, then what am I missing?
>
Ok first let's agree we're not talking about 2 groups fsync the same
file. What's demonstrated in the original post, is that group-A MIGHT
submit xlog in the fsync path via xlog_sync() -> xfs_buf_submit().
Threads from group-B are waiting for the log from flush_work(), at the
same time kworkers from xlog_cil_push_work().
The problem is not about fsync get stuck on the target file. Actually
group-B should be waiting on filemap_write_and_wait_range() if it
were, as xfs_file_fsync() would flush the real data before
_xfs_log_force_lsn.
Here is the setup: group-A has 10 fio jobs each running on 20GB files,
and also some agents with not much IO; group-B just has the agents.
With this patch we set a bps=20Mb/s to A, thus the large amounts of
fio traffic are blocking the group (Note the fio are not doing any
fsync though). At this time, one agent does an fsync to a non-dirty
file, bypassing filemap_write_and_wait_range() and doing xlog_sync().
Here we go, log bios are stuck in group-A. Then group-B and kworkers
are waiting for log integrity indefinitely from various paths. Without
this patch fio should writeout at full disk speed, say 200MB/s, so
it's not accumulated in group-A.
> I'm not saying this isn't a problem that needs fixing, I just want to
> make sure I understand the fundamental problem(s), what this cgawb patch
> actually does and doesn't do and whether there is a logical dependency
> between this patch and the proposed metadata filtering patch.
>
> Brian
>
>> Thanks,
>> Shaohua
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-28 4:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-22 21:11 [PATCH V2] xfs: implement cgroup writeback support Shaohua Li
2018-03-23 14:00 ` Chris Mason
2018-03-23 14:24 ` 张本龙
2018-03-25 21:59 ` Dave Chinner
2018-03-26 16:28 ` Brian Foster
2018-03-27 0:55 ` Shaohua Li
2018-03-27 11:36 ` Brian Foster
2018-03-27 21:56 ` Dave Chinner
2018-03-28 11:32 ` Brian Foster
2018-03-28 22:35 ` Dave Chinner
2018-03-28 4:37 ` 张本龙 [this message]
2018-03-28 11:24 ` Brian Foster
[not found] ` <CAJDdQW3gOa8ry_XVkcCMf2QT7wC7MvU4b94hMhwJsg9MjYoKgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-03-27 11:50 ` Brian Foster
2018-03-28 9:55 ` 张本龙
2018-03-23 14:37 ` Brian Foster
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2017-10-15 5:07 Shaohua Li
2017-10-15 22:22 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-16 3:35 ` Shaohua Li
2017-10-16 6:22 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-18 5:18 ` Shaohua Li
2017-10-19 7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
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