From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/13] dax: require 'struct page' for filesystem dax
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:16:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4hYFAFsyF8RVc2kQwf-q2SWVPA4BFaerNbQXQBvhDONmg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171021032008.GA27694@bombadil.infradead.org>
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 03:29:57PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> Ok, I'd also like to kill DAX support in the brd driver. It's a source
>> of complexity and maintenance burden for zero benefit. It's the only
>> ->direct_access() implementation that sleeps and it's the only
>> implementation where there is a non-linear relationship between
>> sectors and pfns. Having a 1:1 sector to pfn relationship will help
>> with the dma-extent-busy management since we don't need to keep
>> calling into the driver to map pfns back to sectors once we know the
>> pfn[0] sector[0] relationship.
>
> But these are important things that other block devices may / will want.
>
> For example, I think it's entirely sensible to support ->direct_access
> for RAID-0. Dell are looking at various different options for having
> one pmemX device per DIMM and using RAID to lash them together.
> ->direct_access makes no sense for RAID-5 or RAID-1, but RAID-0 makes
> sense to me.
>
> Last time we tried to take sleeping out, there were grumblings from people
> with network block devices who thought they'd want to bring pages in
> across the network. I'm a bit less sympathetic to this because I don't
> know anyone actively working on it, but the RAID-0 case is something I
> think we should care about.
True, good point. In fact we already support device-mapper striping
with ->direct_access(). I'd still like to go ahead with the sleeping
removal. When those folks come back and add network direct_access they
can do the hard work of figuring out cases where we need to call
direct_access in atomic contexts.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-21 4:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-20 2:38 [PATCH v3 00/13] dax: fix dma vs truncate and remove 'page-less' support Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] dax: quiet bdev_dax_supported() Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] dax: require 'struct page' for filesystem dax Dan Williams
2017-10-20 7:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 15:23 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 16:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 22:29 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-21 3:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-21 4:16 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2017-10-21 8:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 5:18 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-23 8:55 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-23 10:44 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-23 11:20 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] dax: stop using VM_MIXEDMAP for dax Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] dax: stop using VM_HUGEPAGE " Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] dax: stop requiring a live device for dax_flush() Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] dax: store pfns in the radix Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] dax: warn if dma collides with truncate Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] tools/testing/nvdimm: add 'bio_delay' mechanism Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] IB/core: disable memory registration of fileystem-dax vmas Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] mm: disable get_user_pages_fast() for dax Dan Williams
2017-10-20 2:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] fs: use smp_load_acquire in break_{layout,lease} Dan Williams
2017-10-20 12:39 ` Jeffrey Layton
2017-10-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] dax: handle truncate of dma-busy pages Dan Williams
2017-10-20 13:05 ` Jeff Layton
2017-10-20 15:42 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 16:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 17:27 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 20:36 ` Brian Foster
2017-10-21 8:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] xfs: wire up FL_ALLOCATED support Dan Williams
2017-10-20 7:47 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] dax: fix dma vs truncate and remove 'page-less' support Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 9:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-26 10:58 ` Jan Kara
2017-10-26 23:51 ` Williams, Dan J
2017-10-27 6:48 ` Dave Chinner
[not found] ` <CAA9_cmdx7T2jnfw6TvL0_3ytfs-h-X06uF3_7Ex-YP12YKpwng@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-29 21:52 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-27 6:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-29 23:46 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-30 2:00 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-30 8:38 ` Jan Kara
2017-10-30 11:20 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-30 17:51 ` Dan Williams
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