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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
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	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8] dma-mapping: introduce dma_get_iommu_domain()
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 10:32:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jU0L-LocP7ZKWcUoft+h5rpMYsvgO_dEWfkrSxrQxJOA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8161efa8-a315-3b0b-4159-9bdf3bfb98aa@arm.com>

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> On 08/10/17 04:45, Dan Williams wrote:
>> Add a dma-mapping api helper to retrieve the generic iommu_domain for a device.
>> The motivation for this interface is making RDMA transfers to DAX mappings
>> safe. If the DAX file's block map changes we need to be to reliably stop
>> accesses to blocks that have been freed or re-assigned to a new file.
>
> ...which is also going to require some way to force the IOMMU drivers
> (on x86 at least) to do a fully-synchronous unmap, instead of just
> throwing the IOVA onto a flush queue to invalidate the TLBs at some
> point in the future.

Isn't that the difference between iommu_unmap() and
iommu_unmap_fast()? As far as I can tell amd-iommu and intel-iommu
both flush iotlbs on iommu_unmap() and don't support fast unmaps.

> Assuming of course that there's an IOMMU both
> present and performing DMA translation in the first place.

That's why I want to call through the dma api to see if the iommu is
being used to satisfy dma mappings.

>> With the
>> iommu_domain and a callback from the DAX filesystem the kernel can safely
>> revoke access to a DMA device. The process that performed the RDMA memory
>> registration is also notified of this revocation event, but the kernel can not
>> otherwise be in the position of waiting for userspace to quiesce the device.
>
> OK, but why reinvent iommu_get_domain_for_dev()?

How do I know if the iommu returned from that routine is the one being
used for dma mapping operations for the device? Specifically, how
would I discover that the result of dma_map_sg() can be passed as an
IOVA range to iommu_unmap()?

>> Since PMEM+DAX is currently only enabled for x86, we only update the x86
>> iommu drivers.
>
> Note in particular that those two drivers happen to be the *only* place
> this approach could work - everyone else is going to have to fall back
> to the generic IOMMU API function anyway.

I want to make this functionality generic, but I'm not familiar with
the iommu sub-system. How are dma mapping operations routed to the
iommu driver in those other imlementations?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-09 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-06 22:35 [PATCH v7 00/12] MAP_DIRECT for DAX RDMA and userspace flush Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 01/12] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 02/12] fs, mm: pass fd to ->mmap_validate() Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 03/12] fs: introduce i_mapdcount Dan Williams
2017-10-09  3:08   ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 04/12] fs: MAP_DIRECT core Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 05/12] xfs: prepare xfs_break_layouts() for reuse with MAP_DIRECT Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 06/12] xfs: wire up MAP_DIRECT Dan Williams
2017-10-09  3:40   ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-09 17:08     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-09 22:50       ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 07/12] dma-mapping: introduce dma_has_iommu() Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:45   ` David Woodhouse
2017-10-06 22:52     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-06 23:10       ` David Woodhouse
2017-10-06 23:15         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-07 11:08           ` David Woodhouse
2017-10-07 23:33             ` Dan Williams
2017-10-06 23:12       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-08  3:45   ` [PATCH v8] dma-mapping: introduce dma_get_iommu_domain() Dan Williams
2017-10-09 10:37     ` Robin Murphy
2017-10-09 17:32       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2017-10-10 14:40     ` Raj, Ashok
2017-10-09 18:58   ` [PATCH v7 07/12] dma-mapping: introduce dma_has_iommu() Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-09 19:05     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-09 19:18       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-09 19:28         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-10 17:25           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-10 17:39             ` Dan Williams
2017-10-10 18:05               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-10 20:17                 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 18:27                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-12 20:10                     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13  6:50                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-13 15:03                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-15 15:14                           ` Matan Barak
2017-10-15 15:21                             ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13  7:09         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 08/12] fs, mapdirect: introduce ->lease_direct() Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 09/12] xfs: wire up ->lease_direct() Dan Williams
2017-10-09  3:45   ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-09 17:10     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 10/12] device-dax: " Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 11/12] IB/core: use MAP_DIRECT to fix / enable RDMA to DAX mappings Dan Williams
2017-10-08  4:02   ` [PATCH v8 1/2] iommu: up-level sg_num_pages() from amd-iommu Dan Williams
2017-10-08  4:04   ` [PATCH v8 2/2] IB/core: use MAP_DIRECT to fix / enable RDMA to DAX mappings Dan Williams
2017-10-08  6:45     ` kbuild test robot
2017-10-08 15:49       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 12/12] tools/testing/nvdimm: enable rdma unit tests Dan Williams

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