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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Andrey Albershteyn <aalbersh@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 10/11] xfs: add fs-verity support
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 12:39:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5jjC5kcF4kCiwNB@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221213203319.GV3600936@dread.disaster.area>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 07:33:19AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:08:45AM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 06:29:34PM +0100, Andrey Albershteyn wrote:
> > > 
> > > Also add check that block size == PAGE_SIZE as fs-verity doesn't
> > > support different sizes yet.
> > 
> > That's coming with
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20221028224539.171818-1-ebiggers@kernel.org/T/#u,
> > which I'll be resending soon and I hope to apply for 6.3.
> > Review and testing of that patchset, along with its associated xfstests update
> > (https://lore.kernel.org/fstests/20221211070704.341481-1-ebiggers@kernel.org/T/#u),
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Note, as proposed there will still be a limit of:
> > 
> > 	merkle_tree_block_size <= fs_block_size <= page_size
> 
> > Hopefully you don't need fs_block_size > page_size or
> 
> Yes, we will.
> 
> This back on my radar now that folios have settled down. It's
> pretty trivial for XFS to do because we already support metadata
> block sizes > filesystem block size. Here is an old prototype:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20181107063127.3902-1-david@fromorbit.com/

As per my follow-up response
(https://lore.kernel.org/r/Y5jc7P1ZeWHiTKRF@sol.localdomain),
I now think that wouldn't actually be a problem.

> > merkle_tree_block_size > fs_block_size?
> 
> That's also a desirable addition.
> 
> XFS is using xattrs to hold merkle tree blocks so the merkle tree
> storage is are already independent of the filesystem block size and
> page cache limitations. Being able to using 64kB merkle tree blocks
> would be really handy for reducing the search depth and overall IO
> footprint of really large files.

Well, the main problem is that using a Merkle tree block of 64K would mean that
you can never read less than 64K at a time.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-13 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-13 17:29 [RFC PATCH 00/11] fs-verity support for XFS Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] xfs: enable large folios in xfs_setup_inode() Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-14  0:53   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] pagemap: add mapping_clear_large_folios() wrapper Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 17:55   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-12-13 19:33     ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-13 21:10       ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-14  6:52         ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-14  8:12           ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 21:08     ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 16:34       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] xfs: add attribute type for fs-verity Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 17:43   ` Eric Sandeen
2022-12-14  1:03     ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 16:37       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] xfs: add fs-verity ro-compat flag Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-14  1:06   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] xfs: add inode on-disk VERITY flag Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-14  1:29   ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 16:51     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] xfs: initialize fs-verity on file open and cleanup on inode destruction Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-14  1:35   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-14  5:25     ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-14  8:18       ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] xfs: disable direct read path for fs-verity sealed files Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-14  2:07   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-14  5:44     ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-23 16:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-09 17:23     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] xfs: don't enable large folios on fs-verity sealed inode Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-14  2:07   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] iomap: fs-verity verification on page read Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 19:02   ` Eric Biggers
2023-01-09 16:58     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-14  5:43   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] xfs: add fs-verity support Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 19:08   ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-13 19:22     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-12-13 20:13       ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-13 20:33     ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 20:39       ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2022-12-13 21:40         ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-14  7:58   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-13 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] xfs: add fs-verity ioctls Andrey Albershteyn
2022-12-13 20:50 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] fs-verity support for XFS Eric Biggers
2022-12-13 22:11   ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-14  6:31     ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-14 23:06       ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-15  6:47         ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-15 20:57           ` Dave Chinner
2022-12-16  5:04             ` Eric Biggers

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