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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jack@suse.cz" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"djwong@kernel.org" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"nvdimm@lists.linux.dev" <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Gomatam, Sravani" <sravani.gomatam@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] xfs: drop async cache flushes from CIL commits.
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 23:14:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrAQMYypulcJWtM+@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220619234011.GK227878@dread.disaster.area>

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 09:40:11AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> That doesn't change the fact we are issuing cache flushes from the
> log checkpoint code - it just changes how we issue them. We removed
> the explicit blkdev_issue_flush_async() call from the cache path and
> went back to the old way of doing things (attaching it directly to
> the first IO of a journal checkpoint) when it became clear the async
> flush was causing performance regressions on storage with really
> slow cache flush semantics by causing too many extra cache flushes
> to be issued.

Yes.  Also actualy nvidmms (unlike virtio-pmem) never supported async
flush anyway and still did the cache flush operations synchronously
anyway.

> To me, this smells of a pmem block device cache flush issue, not a
> filesystem problem...

Yes.  Especially as normal nvdims are designed to not have a volatile
write cache in the storage device sense anyway - Linux just does some
extra magic for REQ_PREFLUSH commands that isn't nessecary and gives
all thus funky userspace solution or snake oil acadmic file systems
extra advantages by skipping that..

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-20  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-30  1:10 [PATCH 0/8 v3] xfs: more shutdown/recovery fixes Dave Chinner
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 1/8] xfs: aborting inodes on shutdown may need buffer lock Dave Chinner
2022-03-30  1:21   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-04-01 11:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-01 20:35     ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 2/8] xfs: shutdown in intent recovery has non-intent items in the AIL Dave Chinner
2022-04-01 11:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 3/8] xfs: run callbacks before waking waiters in xlog_state_shutdown_callbacks Dave Chinner
2022-04-01 11:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 4/8] xfs: log shutdown triggers should only shut down the log Dave Chinner
2022-04-01 12:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-01 20:32     ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 5/8] xfs: xfs_do_force_shutdown needs to block racing shutdowns Dave Chinner
2022-04-01 12:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 6/8] xfs: xfs_trans_commit() path must check for log shutdown Dave Chinner
2022-04-01 12:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 7/8] xfs: shutdown during log recovery needs to mark the " Dave Chinner
2022-04-01 12:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30  1:10 ` [PATCH 8/8] xfs: drop async cache flushes from CIL commits Dave Chinner
2022-04-01 12:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-16 22:23   ` Williams, Dan J
2022-06-19 23:40     ` Dave Chinner
2022-06-20  6:14       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2022-06-21 23:48       ` Dan Williams
2022-06-23  1:17         ` Dave Chinner
2022-06-23  4:37           ` Dan Williams

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