From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Jeremy Bongio <bongiojp@gmail.com>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Allison Henderson <allison.henderson@oracle.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] iomap regression for aio dio 4k writes
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:02:26 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJULQjTpcRdEUHY8@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230623023233.GC34229@mit.edu>
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:32:33PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 09:59:29AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > Ah, you are testing pure overwrites, which means for ext4 the only
> > thing it needs to care about is cached mappings. What happens when
> > you add O_DSYNC here?
>
> I think you mean O_SYNC, right?
No, I *explicitly* meant O_DSYNC.
> In a pure overwrite case, where all
> of the extents are initialized and where the Oracle or DB2 server is
> doing writes to preallocated, pre-initialized space in the tablespace
> file followed by fdatasync(), there *are* no post-I/O data integrity
> operations which are required.
Wrong: O_DSYNC DIO write IO requires the data to be on stable
storage at IO completion. This means the pure overwrite IO must be
either issued as a REQ_FUA write or as a normal write followed by a
device cache flush.
That device cache flush is a post-I/O data integrity operation and
that is handled by iomap_dio_complete() -> generic_write_sync() ->
vfs_fsync_range()....
> If the file is opened O_SYNC or if the blocks were not
> preallocated using fallocate(2) and not initialized ahead of time,
> then sure, we can't use this optimization.
Well, yes. That's the whole point of the IOMAP_F_DIRTY flag - if
that is set, we don't attempt any pure overwrite optimisations
because it's not a pure overwrite and metadata needs flushing to the
journal. Hence we need to call generic_write_sync().
> What we might to do is to let the file system tell the iomap layer
> via a flag whether or not there are no post-I/O metadata
> operations required, and then *if* that flag is set, and *if* the
> inode has no pages in the page cache (so there are no invalidate
> operations necessary), it should be safe to skip using
> queue_work(). That way, the file system has to affirmatively
> state that it is safe to skip the workqueue, so it shouldn't do
> any harm to other file systems using the iomap DIO layer.
>
> What am I missing?
You didn't read my followup email. IOMAP_F_DIRTY is the flag
you describe, and it already exists.
-Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-23 3:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-21 17:29 [PATCH 0/1] iomap regression for aio dio 4k writes Jeremy Bongio
2023-06-21 17:29 ` [PATCH 1/1] For DIO writes with no mapped pages for inode, skip deferring completion Jeremy Bongio
2023-06-21 18:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-22 0:04 ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-21 23:59 ` [PATCH 0/1] iomap regression for aio dio 4k writes Dave Chinner
2023-06-22 1:55 ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-22 2:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-22 4:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-22 4:47 ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-23 2:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-23 3:02 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2023-06-22 23:22 ` Allison Henderson
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